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To The Regiment wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:35 pm As I mentioned in another thread, fans of the Magnum Reboot are very active on other social media sites, most notably Instagram. They seem to be younger, female and drawn to the prospect of a love affair between the new Magnum and Juliet Higgins, which they have affectionately dubbed "Miggy".
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Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm
Hey Ivan,

I would argue that series TV today is simply responding to what viewers want/expect in a series today.
That's why they BETTER stay WAY OFF my lawn! :x
That said, you know I very much enjoy older detective series, but have also found many newer series that are very well done also. There’s a whole lot out there to choose from today.
Much more to choose from and much less good stuff. We had much less to choose from back then, yet we had more good stuff.

I can rattle off quite a list of great entertainment just between the years 1982-1985. I would struggle to come up with 4 good shows from the last 2 decades. And I can't think of a single sitcom that I could sit down and watch from the last decade.

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I think that's the problem with today's shows. Everything is serialized and expected to lead somewhere. People keep watching to see "will they or won't they?" Will Miggy ( :roll: ) happen or won't it?

Back in the day it was mostly standalone episodes. I suppose MPI was a bit of a rarity in that it actually had stories which were sometimes revisited later in the series.
Serialized shows can get tedious and monotonous especially when binge watching, but I think the best shows have a balance of both. MPI had several long running stories, but those stories did not have to be the focus of every episode. I've come to the conclusion that the 90s was the best era of TV because producers realized that continuity matters, but they weren't so in love with serialization yet.

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IvanTheTerrible wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:54 pm
Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm
Hey Ivan,

I would argue that series TV today is simply responding to what viewers want/expect in a series today.
That's why they BETTER stay WAY OFF my lawn! :x
That said, you know I very much enjoy older detective series, but have also found many newer series that are very well done also. There’s a whole lot out there to choose from today.
Much more to choose from and much less good stuff. We had much less to choose from back then, yet we had more good stuff.

I can rattle off quite a list of great entertainment just between the years 1982-1985. I would struggle to come up with 4 good shows from the last 2 decades. And I can't think of a single sitcom that I could sit down and watch from the last decade.
I suppose my response would be that they have no interest in being on your lawn. :lol: They are interested in appealing to as many current viewers of a certain demographic as possible. Television has always been based on popularity, as the ratings drive ad rates and ultimately the profitability of the series. This was true also of our beloved Magnum p.i. even though we love it for so many more reasons. It was also true of the older series you enjoy. I’m sorry that you can find nothing new you feel feel worthy of watching. Your tastes seem to be in the past, far from much of the current viewing audience, which unfortunately means you will not see much that you prefer. Perhaps a few more attempts at something different before writing off two decades will reveal something you like? Of course it’s always your choice to never leave your lawn. :D

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ConchRepublican wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:46 pm
To The Regiment wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:35 pm As I mentioned in another thread, fans of the Magnum Reboot are very active on other social media sites, most notably Instagram. They seem to be younger, female and drawn to the prospect of a love affair between the new Magnum and Juliet Higgins, which they have affectionately dubbed "Miggy".
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LOL...my sentiments exactly! Keep in mind that the list I shared of Magnum Reboot fan accounts on Instagram wasn't comprehensive. There are many more active Reboot fan accounts on Instagram, several of them dedicated solely to Juliet Higgins/Perdita Weeks.

My teenage daughter is a fan of Juliet Higgins, which I think is cool. Girls need strong role models, just as boys do. However, the character doesn't work for me in the context of "Magnum, PI." She needs her own show where she's the undisputed lead.

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To The Regiment wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:32 am
ConchRepublican wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:46 pm
To The Regiment wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:35 pm As I mentioned in another thread, fans of the Magnum Reboot are very active on other social media sites, most notably Instagram. They seem to be younger, female and drawn to the prospect of a love affair between the new Magnum and Juliet Higgins, which they have affectionately dubbed "Miggy".
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LOL...my sentiments exactly! Keep in mind that the list I shared of Magnum Reboot fan accounts on Instagram wasn't comprehensive. There are many more active Reboot fan accounts on Instagram, several of them dedicated solely to Juliet Higgins/Perdita Weeks.

My teenage daughter is a fan of Juliet Higgins, which I think is cool. Girls need strong role models, just as boys do. However, the character doesn't work for me in the context of "Magnum, PI." She needs her own show where she's the undisputed lead.

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I only watched a few episodes before giving up, but thought that Perdita Weeks was easily the best part of the show. I’m glad your daughter is a fan of her character even if I don’t care for the new series.

I’m going to write it again (it’s somewhere on this forum) but my mom, aunt, and a neighbor woman loved the original MPI when it debuted because of Selleck, and pretty much… because of Selleck. :lol: However, my mom was the reason I ever began watching it in 1980, with only one TV in the house. Different people like both series for different reasons. I have no problem with any of these reasons. In the end, my mom’s infatuation? with Selleck introduced me to a show I have been enjoying for 40 years.

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Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:01 pm
IvanTheTerrible wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:54 pm
Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm
Hey Ivan,

I would argue that series TV today is simply responding to what viewers want/expect in a series today.
That's why they BETTER stay WAY OFF my lawn! :x
That said, you know I very much enjoy older detective series, but have also found many newer series that are very well done also. There’s a whole lot out there to choose from today.
Much more to choose from and much less good stuff. We had much less to choose from back then, yet we had more good stuff.

I can rattle off quite a list of great entertainment just between the years 1982-1985. I would struggle to come up with 4 good shows from the last 2 decades. And I can't think of a single sitcom that I could sit down and watch from the last decade.
I suppose my response would be that they have no interest in being on your lawn. :lol: They are interested in appealing to as many current viewers of a certain demographic as possible. Television has always been based on popularity, as the ratings drive ad rates and ultimately the profitability of the series. This was true also of our beloved Magnum p.i. even though we love it for so many more reasons. It was also true of the older series you enjoy. I’m sorry that you can find nothing new you feel feel worthy of watching. Your tastes seem to be in the past, far from much of the current viewing audience, which unfortunately means you will not see much that you prefer. Perhaps a few more attempts at something different before writing off two decades will reveal something you like? Of course it’s always your choice to never leave your lawn. :D
I guess my response would be that as long as these shows exist they're on my lawn. :P GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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IvanTheTerrible wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:58 pm
Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:01 pm
IvanTheTerrible wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:54 pm
Pahonu wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:56 pm
Hey Ivan,

I would argue that series TV today is simply responding to what viewers want/expect in a series today.
That's why they BETTER stay WAY OFF my lawn! :x
That said, you know I very much enjoy older detective series, but have also found many newer series that are very well done also. There’s a whole lot out there to choose from today.
Much more to choose from and much less good stuff. We had much less to choose from back then, yet we had more good stuff.

I can rattle off quite a list of great entertainment just between the years 1982-1985. I would struggle to come up with 4 good shows from the last 2 decades. And I can't think of a single sitcom that I could sit down and watch from the last decade.
I suppose my response would be that they have no interest in being on your lawn. :lol: They are interested in appealing to as many current viewers of a certain demographic as possible. Television has always been based on popularity, as the ratings drive ad rates and ultimately the profitability of the series. This was true also of our beloved Magnum p.i. even though we love it for so many more reasons. It was also true of the older series you enjoy. I’m sorry that you can find nothing new you feel feel worthy of watching. Your tastes seem to be in the past, far from much of the current viewing audience, which unfortunately means you will not see much that you prefer. Perhaps a few more attempts at something different before writing off two decades will reveal something you like? Of course it’s always your choice to never leave your lawn. :D
I guess my response would be that as long as these shows exist they're on my lawn. :P GET OFF MY LAWN!!!
You claim a pretty large lawn then! :shock: :lol:

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Thankfully, there are a couple of unsung heroes on Instagram who regularly promote the original Magnum, PI series: https://www.instagram.com/magnum10k/ and https://www.instagram.com/magnum_p.i._super_fan_/

Check them out, give them a follow and thank them for putting up the good fight.

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I ran across this recent story about the upcoming season of the Magnum Reboot. It's all about Higgins and Magnum getting back together:

https://cartermatt.com/446205/magnum-pi ... -all-need/

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To The Regiment wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:56 pm I ran across this recent story about the upcoming season of the Magnum Reboot. It's all about Higgins and Magnum getting back together:

https://cartermatt.com/446205/magnum-pi ... -all-need/

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Yawn! That's why I don't watch modern TV. It's all about "relationships".

I read somewhere some negative comments from I'm guessing modern audiences who couldn't get into the classic MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE tv series because they know nothing about the main characters. They simply couldn't keep watching because they didn't have any background on these characters and there were no "relationships" to speak of. I feel so sad for the modern audience. :( To overlook the intricate and clever plots (which is the entire REASON to watch the show) and instead to pine for "background" on characters and "relationships"??? :shock: Because yes I really need to know who Jim Phelps' mommy and daddy are and where they are now and are they all getting together for Thanksgiving and are Rollin and Cinnamon invited too? Oh, and is Barney's divorce going through or is he still working things out with his wife? All this would make the show soooooo much more watchable. :roll:

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IvanTheTerrible wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:20 pm
To The Regiment wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:56 pm I ran across this recent story about the upcoming season of the Magnum Reboot. It's all about Higgins and Magnum getting back together:

https://cartermatt.com/446205/magnum-pi ... -all-need/

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Yawn! That's why I don't watch modern TV. It's all about "relationships".

I read somewhere some negative comments from I'm guessing modern audiences who couldn't get into the classic MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE tv series because they know nothing about the main characters. They simply couldn't keep watching because they didn't have any background on these characters and there were no "relationships" to speak of. I feel so sad for the modern audience. :( To overlook the intricate and clever plots (which is the entire REASON to watch the show) and instead to pine for "background" on characters and "relationships"??? :shock: Because yes I really need to know who Jim Phelps' mommy and daddy are and where they are now and are they all getting together for Thanksgiving and are Rollin and Cinnamon invited too? Oh, and is Barney's divorce going through or is he still working things out with his wife? All this would make the show soooooo much more watchable. :roll:
I’m struggling with this post. You are saying that you feel sad that a current audience enjoys watching a show that you don’t enjoy? I don’t know what to make of that. Or are you saying that someone can’t happily enjoy something in a different way than you do? I still don’t get it. Or are saying that your way of enjoying media is somehow the only correct way? Apologies up front, but all of these seem more than a bit ego-centric, unless you meant something else?

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Pahonu wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:23 am I’m struggling with this post. You are saying that you feel sad that a current audience enjoys watching a show that you don’t enjoy? I don’t know what to make of that. Or are you saying that someone can’t happily enjoy something in a different way than you do? I still don’t get it. Or are saying that your way of enjoying media is somehow the only correct way? Apologies up front, but all of these seem more than a bit ego-centric, unless you meant something else?
You seem to struggle a lot. :lol:

It's simple. You have a classic iconic show with one of the coolest premises ever conceived for television and then you have these yahoos who can't enjoy it because there are no "relationships". Gimme a break! :roll: Yes I feel sorry for those who can't grasp greatness when they see it because all they know from modern TV is sappy romances and needless tangents into personal lives. A smart audience immediately recognizes a great concept and understands that any attempt at relationships would seriously undermine this great concept. A dumb audience understands no such thing. It's like calling a movie crap because it's in B&W. They can't follow a brilliant story because it's being told in B&W. Dumbed-down audience. Sad. Very sad.

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IvanTheTerrible wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:34 pm
Pahonu wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:23 am I’m struggling with this post. You are saying that you feel sad that a current audience enjoys watching a show that you don’t enjoy? I don’t know what to make of that. Or are you saying that someone can’t happily enjoy something in a different way than you do? I still don’t get it. Or are saying that your way of enjoying media is somehow the only correct way? Apologies up front, but all of these seem more than a bit ego-centric, unless you meant something else?
You seem to struggle a lot. :lol:

It's simple. You have a classic iconic show with one of the coolest premises ever conceived for television and then you have these yahoos who can't enjoy it because there are no "relationships". Gimme a break! :roll: Yes I feel sorry for those who can't grasp greatness when they see it because all they know from modern TV is sappy romances and needless tangents into personal lives. A smart audience immediately recognizes a great concept and understands that any attempt at relationships would seriously undermine this great concept. A dumb audience understands no such thing. It's like calling a movie crap because it's in B&W. They can't follow a brilliant story because it's being told in B&W. Dumbed-down audience. Sad. Very sad.
I’m no longer struggling. I clearly see you think you’re smarter than everyone else and your opinions are always correct. There’s no surer sign than your comments, that neither is true. It’s particularly ridiculous because it’s about subjective artistic opinions. You go on to name call others with different tastes as yahoo’s, a true sign of superior intelligence. You’re certainly entitled to your own ideas, but your superiority complex is getting old. It’s almost laughable and I don’t mean comedic.

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