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Pahonu wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 pm
MaiTaiMan wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:56 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:25 am Thank you 308Guy for creating this thread.

The first time I watch a TV series I try to take it on it's own terms and hope I will be entertained.
If it's worthwhile, the second time through I try breaking down what the writers/director did to put the story over.
Plus searching for the trivial aspects, because I enjoy nonsense, such as looking for film crews reflections in windows or the polished sides of cars, or finding out that the cool sports car driven by
Clark Kent(George Reeves) in Superman was actually his own 1952 Nash Healey Convertable.

Some random Hawaiian Eye stuff:

The Hawaiian Village entrance to the Hawaiian Eye detective agency was flanked on one side by "Cricket's Corner" photography studio and on the other by "The Record Shop"(later also run by Cricket).
By my count 11 times Warner Brothers promoted it's records by putting them in The Record Shop's display window.
Twice a large sign proclaimed -

"TOMORROW'S SOUND TODAY, WARNER BROS. RECORDS"

Either one of the two albums from 77 Sunset Strip would be displayed, briefly seen as one of the stars walked in or out of the hotel.
The albums were
1) "77 Sunset Strip (Music From The Year's Most Popular New Show) 1959"
2) "Kookie Star of 77 Sunset Strip Edd Brynes"

The LP records first appeared in episode one, Malihini Holiday, Oct. 7, 1959. They were last seen on March 5, 1963, in "Blow Low, Blow Blue", one of the very last episodes.
Cricket is seen holding the full cast LP in Sam's Record Store, a Beatnik joint run by hep cat Victor Sen Yung(Bonanza's "Hop Sing"), portrayed here as a full blown jive talking Beat in the proper regalia.

The Cartwrights would have been gobsmacked -

Hungry Hoss: "Hopsing, I'll have scrambled eggs, 2 link sausages and hash browns, extra fries, coffee with cream. And make it fast, please."
Newly Beat Hop Sing recites back Hoss's order in The Kings Jive -
"Frantic, daddy-o. That's cackleberries, two oinks and a haystack, ride the straws, Java and squeeze Bossy. Dig, I'm heels on fire, kitchen bound."

As discussed on the Hawaii Five - O thread, the creative talent behind that series often ate at a Chinese restaurant called "Wo Fat Chop Sui", inspiring the monicker
for McGarrett's arch nemesis, memorably portrayed by Keye Luke.

Wo Fat's was a beloved Chinatown landmark, the oldest restaurant in Hawaii.
The restaurant is gone now but it still remains the "Wo Fat Building".

It showed up at least three times on Hawaiian Eye, it's large neon sign lighting up Hotel Street. It also showed up on Hawaii Five - O and the original
Magnum PI.

Wo Fat's appears twice on Hawaiian Eye in season one, "Malihini Holiday" and "The Kikiki Kid", and once in season four, "Day in the Sun".
In "Day in the Sun", Phillip Barton (Troy Donahue) takes his date there for dinner, but it is now a Japanese restaurant, who knows why.
Yes, Leonard Freeman, creator of Hawaii Five-0, often ate at Wo Fat Chop Sui. He then used part of the name for McGarrett’s nemesis. Wo Fat was played by the late Khigh Deigh (pronounced like KI Dee).
He was also great in The Manchurian Candidate. I’ve always wanted to see his short-lived TV series Khan! but to no avail so far. Even though it’s not supposed to be very good, I’m still interested in watching it.
It was just a handful of episodes. In one of those strange quirks of casting, he played almost entirely East Asian roles though he was born Kenneth Dickerson in Spring Lake, New Jersey of Anglo-Egyptian heritage. It’s not unlike Iron Eyes Cody, born Espera Oscar de Corti, of Italian heritage in Louisiana. They both made successful careers, however.
Hi MaiTaiMan, Pahonu,
Aha, it was you MaiTaiMan that supplied the info about Freeman and company eating at Wo Fat's joint, I couldn't recall offhand. My short term memory of late is foggy, I'm told that can be a COVID
side effect for awhile, hopefully like lack of taste it goes away.
Pahonu, holy smokes, my man Wo Fat is actually a Jersey boy named Kenneth Dickerson? Who knew he was a fellow consumer of Taylor Ham and Cheese on a roll washed down with a bottle of
Dr. Brown's finest root beer, while rooting on the NJ Devils.
But if you ask me Mrs. Dickerson has got "some splainin' to do" to her husband, they may be an Anglo-Egyptian couple but their son Ken looks like he could be a Mongol chieftain raiding across
the steppes for Ghengis Khan. Of course he may have been adopted.

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Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:49 am
Pahonu wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 pm
MaiTaiMan wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:56 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:25 am Thank you 308Guy for creating this thread.

The first time I watch a TV series I try to take it on it's own terms and hope I will be entertained.
If it's worthwhile, the second time through I try breaking down what the writers/director did to put the story over.
Plus searching for the trivial aspects, because I enjoy nonsense, such as looking for film crews reflections in windows or the polished sides of cars, or finding out that the cool sports car driven by
Clark Kent(George Reeves) in Superman was actually his own 1952 Nash Healey Convertable.

Some random Hawaiian Eye stuff:

The Hawaiian Village entrance to the Hawaiian Eye detective agency was flanked on one side by "Cricket's Corner" photography studio and on the other by "The Record Shop"(later also run by Cricket).
By my count 11 times Warner Brothers promoted it's records by putting them in The Record Shop's display window.
Twice a large sign proclaimed -

"TOMORROW'S SOUND TODAY, WARNER BROS. RECORDS"

Either one of the two albums from 77 Sunset Strip would be displayed, briefly seen as one of the stars walked in or out of the hotel.
The albums were
1) "77 Sunset Strip (Music From The Year's Most Popular New Show) 1959"
2) "Kookie Star of 77 Sunset Strip Edd Brynes"

The LP records first appeared in episode one, Malihini Holiday, Oct. 7, 1959. They were last seen on March 5, 1963, in "Blow Low, Blow Blue", one of the very last episodes.
Cricket is seen holding the full cast LP in Sam's Record Store, a Beatnik joint run by hep cat Victor Sen Yung(Bonanza's "Hop Sing"), portrayed here as a full blown jive talking Beat in the proper regalia.

The Cartwrights would have been gobsmacked -

Hungry Hoss: "Hopsing, I'll have scrambled eggs, 2 link sausages and hash browns, extra fries, coffee with cream. And make it fast, please."
Newly Beat Hop Sing recites back Hoss's order in The Kings Jive -
"Frantic, daddy-o. That's cackleberries, two oinks and a haystack, ride the straws, Java and squeeze Bossy. Dig, I'm heels on fire, kitchen bound."

As discussed on the Hawaii Five - O thread, the creative talent behind that series often ate at a Chinese restaurant called "Wo Fat Chop Sui", inspiring the monicker
for McGarrett's arch nemesis, memorably portrayed by Keye Luke.

Wo Fat's was a beloved Chinatown landmark, the oldest restaurant in Hawaii.
The restaurant is gone now but it still remains the "Wo Fat Building".

It showed up at least three times on Hawaiian Eye, it's large neon sign lighting up Hotel Street. It also showed up on Hawaii Five - O and the original
Magnum PI.

Wo Fat's appears twice on Hawaiian Eye in season one, "Malihini Holiday" and "The Kikiki Kid", and once in season four, "Day in the Sun".
In "Day in the Sun", Phillip Barton (Troy Donahue) takes his date there for dinner, but it is now a Japanese restaurant, who knows why.
Yes, Leonard Freeman, creator of Hawaii Five-0, often ate at Wo Fat Chop Sui. He then used part of the name for McGarrett’s nemesis. Wo Fat was played by the late Khigh Deigh (pronounced like KI Dee).
He was also great in The Manchurian Candidate. I’ve always wanted to see his short-lived TV series Khan! but to no avail so far. Even though it’s not supposed to be very good, I’m still interested in watching it.
It was just a handful of episodes. In one of those strange quirks of casting, he played almost entirely East Asian roles though he was born Kenneth Dickerson in Spring Lake, New Jersey of Anglo-Egyptian heritage. It’s not unlike Iron Eyes Cody, born Espera Oscar de Corti, of Italian heritage in Louisiana. They both made successful careers, however.
Hi MaiTaiMan, Pahonu,
Aha, it was you MaiTaiMan that supplied the info about Freeman and company eating at Wo Fat's joint, I couldn't recall offhand. My short term memory of late is foggy, I'm told that can be a COVID
side effect for awhile, hopefully like lack of taste it goes away.
Pahonu, holy smokes, my man Wo Fat is actually a Jersey boy named Kenneth Dickerson? Who knew he was a fellow consumer of Taylor Ham and Cheese on a roll washed down with a bottle of
Dr. Brown's finest root beer, while rooting on the NJ Devils.
But if you ask me Mrs. Dickerson has got "some splainin' to do" to her husband, they may be an Anglo-Egyptian couple but their son Ken looks like he could be a Mongol chieftain raiding across
the steppes for Ghengis Khan. Of course he may have been adopted.
I think he would have enjoyed the sandwich even more with pork roll! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#93 Post by Luther's nephew Dobie »

Luthers nephew Dobie wrote:

Hi MaiTaiMan, Pahonu,
Aha, it was you MaiTaiMan that supplied the info about Freeman and company eating at Wo Fat's joint, I couldn't recall offhand. My short term memory of late is foggy, I'm told that can be a COVID
side effect for awhile, hopefully like lack of taste it goes away.
Pahonu, holy smokes, my man Wo Fat is actually a Jersey boy named Kenneth Dickerson? Who knew he was a fellow consumer of Taylor Ham and Cheese on a roll washed down with a bottle of
Dr. Brown's finest root beer, while rooting on the NJ Devils.
But if you ask me Mrs. Dickerson has got "some splainin' to do" to her husband, they may be an Anglo-Egyptian couple but their son Ken looks like he could be a Mongol chieftain raiding across
the steppes for Ghengis Khan. Of course he may have been adopted.
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Pahonu wrote:
I think he would have enjoyed the sandwich even more with pork roll! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Luther replied:
Pahonu,
Pork roll? Pork roll! Bah, hum bug, sacrilege, unclean one. Only Apostates that roam the southern Pine Barrens use that term. It's no wonder Paulie Walnuts and Christopher Moltisanti
were uneasy when they were stranded down there.

But back to Hawaiian Eye:
I just found this episode guide and the background facts/trivia the author provides are amazing. He or she HAS to be a Hawaii resident, the breadth of the author's knowledge
is really impressive, though I only flipped thru 10 or so random episode descriptions.
There are no links to the author or anything else, just this guide, unless I missed something:

http://www.squareone.org/WB/HE.html

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In the Wild Wild West episode "The Night of the Deadly Blossom" (season two episode 25),Robert Conrad's former Hawaiian Eye cast mate Mel Prestidge makes an appearance.
In a short cameo at the start he tries to kill Jim West(Conrad) with a Gatling Gun.
Somehow hiding behind a bush protects West from the rain of bullets directed at him from 20 yards away!
On Hawaiian Eye Prestidge played Lt. Danny Quon for the length of the series..
The first Hawaiian Eye vet to show up on Wild Wild Wild West was Anthony Eisley in the season two, episode one, "The Night of the Eccentrics".
Eisley showed up in a number of the 1960's Dragnet episodes.

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Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:12 am In the Wild Wild West episode "The Night of the Deadly Blossom" (season two episode 25),Robert Conrad's former Hawaiian Eye cast mate Mel Prestidge makes an appearance.
In a short cameo at the start he tries to kill Jim West(Conrad) with a Gatling Gun.
Somehow hiding behind a bush protects West from the rain of bullets directed at him from 20 yards away!
On Hawaiian Eye Prestidge played Lt. Danny Quon for the length of the series..
The first Hawaiian Eye vet to show up on Wild Wild Wild West was Anthony Eisley in the season two, episode one, "The Night of the Eccentrics".
Eisley showed up in a number of the 1960's Dragnet episodes.

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The word "swims" upside-down is still "swims".
Awesome! I have & love “Hawaiian Eye”, but never got into “Wild Wild West” much. However, it’s awesome to know Robert Conrad liked & cared about a couple of his former HE co-stars, to have them guest star on WWW! :D
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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MaiTaiMan wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:23 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:12 am In the Wild Wild West episode "The Night of the Deadly Blossom" (season two episode 25),Robert Conrad's former Hawaiian Eye cast mate Mel Prestidge makes an appearance.
In a short cameo at the start he tries to kill Jim West(Conrad) with a Gatling Gun.
Somehow hiding behind a bush protects West from the rain of bullets directed at him from 20 yards away!
On Hawaiian Eye Prestidge played Lt. Danny Quon for the length of the series..
The first Hawaiian Eye vet to show up on Wild Wild Wild West was Anthony Eisley in the season two, episode one, "The Night of the Eccentrics".
Eisley showed up in a number of the 1960's Dragnet episodes.
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The word "swims" upside-down is still "swims".
Awesome! I have & love “Hawaiian Eye”, but never got into “Wild Wild West” much. However, it’s awesome to know Robert Conrad liked & cared about a couple of his former HE co-stars, to have them guest star on WWW! :D
Hi MaiTai,
By the the look of the scene with Mel Prestidge - it didn't advance the story, no reason to even spend $$$ making it - along with the over the top sheltering behind a bush to ward off a machine gun's volleys!,
leads me to believe it was a wink to Hawaiian Eye fans, not to be taken seriously, so two buddies could briefly reunite for a "finest kine" moment, as we say in Hawaii. Well, I don't really.

Wild Wild West, when hitting on all cylinders could be action filled top notch fun, with some of the best stunt men on TV, it also made sure to almost always have a beautiful starlet guesting as well.
Short person - I think "midget" is passe? - Michael Dunn's character was one of TV's great villains, beautifully written and rendered, while making the viewer understand/feel his pain.
As Jim West does, though a mortal enemy.
By season four it was by the numbers, Conrad beyond tired from the physical toll, he didn't even read the whole script anymore, just learned his lines, period. He didn't like it was canceled - anti violence
in TV crusade - but was glad, he worried it literally would have exhausted/made him ill or worse if he did another season(he did all his own stunts).
It's fun Friday night popcorn and root beer fare, but I would never binge watch it, it would be like eating too many jelly beans.

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#97 Post by MaiTaiMan »

Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:11 am
MaiTaiMan wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:23 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:12 am In the Wild Wild West episode "The Night of the Deadly Blossom" (season two episode 25),Robert Conrad's former Hawaiian Eye cast mate Mel Prestidge makes an appearance.
In a short cameo at the start he tries to kill Jim West(Conrad) with a Gatling Gun.
Somehow hiding behind a bush protects West from the rain of bullets directed at him from 20 yards away!
On Hawaiian Eye Prestidge played Lt. Danny Quon for the length of the series..
The first Hawaiian Eye vet to show up on Wild Wild Wild West was Anthony Eisley in the season two, episode one, "The Night of the Eccentrics".
Eisley showed up in a number of the 1960's Dragnet episodes.
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The word "swims" upside-down is still "swims".
Awesome! I have & love “Hawaiian Eye”, but never got into “Wild Wild West” much. However, it’s awesome to know Robert Conrad liked & cared about a couple of his former HE co-stars, to have them guest star on WWW! :D
Hi MaiTai,
By the the look of the scene with Mel Prestidge - it didn't advance the story, no reason to even spend $$$ making it - along with the over the top sheltering behind a bush to ward off a machine gun's volleys!,
leads me to believe it was a wink to Hawaiian Eye fans, not to be taken seriously, so two buddies could briefly reunite for a "finest kine" moment, as we say in Hawaii. Well, I don't really.

Wild Wild West, when hitting on all cylinders could be action filled top notch fun, with some of the best stunt men on TV, it also made sure to almost always have a beautiful starlet guesting as well.
Short person - I think "midget" is passe? - Michael Dunn's character was one of TV's great villains, beautifully written and rendered, while making the viewer understand/feel his pain.
As Jim West does, though a mortal enemy.
By season four it was by the numbers, Conrad beyond tired from the physical toll, he didn't even read the whole script anymore, just learned his lines, period. He didn't like it was canceled - anti violence
in TV crusade - but was glad, he worried it literally would have exhausted/made him ill or worse if he did another season(he did all his own stunts).
It's fun Friday night popcorn and root beer fare, but I would never binge watch it, it would be like eating too many jelly beans.
I’ve never actually seen Wild Wild West…it just seemed too silly & “bizarre” to me. But, maybe sometime I’ll check it out.
"It was more ironic than a Robin Masters novel--she thought he was dead, he thought she was dead...and only the chauffeur knew the truth! He should have been the butler!" "Lest We Forget"

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MaiTaiMan wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:01 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:11 am
MaiTaiMan wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:23 am
Luther's nephew Dobie wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:12 am In the Wild Wild West episode "The Night of the Deadly Blossom" (season two episode 25),Robert Conrad's former Hawaiian Eye cast mate Mel Prestidge makes an appearance.
In a short cameo at the start he tries to kill Jim West(Conrad) with a Gatling Gun.
Somehow hiding behind a bush protects West from the rain of bullets directed at him from 20 yards away!
On Hawaiian Eye Prestidge played Lt. Danny Quon for the length of the series..
The first Hawaiian Eye vet to show up on Wild Wild Wild West was Anthony Eisley in the season two, episode one, "The Night of the Eccentrics".
Eisley showed up in a number of the 1960's Dragnet episodes.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The word "swims" upside-down is still "swims".
Awesome! I have & love “Hawaiian Eye”, but never got into “Wild Wild West” much. However, it’s awesome to know Robert Conrad liked & cared about a couple of his former HE co-stars, to have them guest star on WWW! :D
Hi MaiTai,
By the the look of the scene with Mel Prestidge - it didn't advance the story, no reason to even spend $$$ making it - along with the over the top sheltering behind a bush to ward off a machine gun's volleys!,
leads me to believe it was a wink to Hawaiian Eye fans, not to be taken seriously, so two buddies could briefly reunite for a "finest kine" moment, as we say in Hawaii. Well, I don't really.

Wild Wild West, when hitting on all cylinders could be action filled top notch fun, with some of the best stunt men on TV, it also made sure to almost always have a beautiful starlet guesting as well.
Short person - I think "midget" is passe? - Michael Dunn's character was one of TV's great villains, beautifully written and rendered, while making the viewer understand/feel his pain.
As Jim West does, though a mortal enemy.
By season four it was by the numbers, Conrad beyond tired from the physical toll, he didn't even read the whole script anymore, just learned his lines, period. He didn't like it was canceled - anti violence
in TV crusade - but was glad, he worried it literally would have exhausted/made him ill or worse if he did another season(he did all his own stunts).
It's fun Friday night popcorn and root beer fare, but I would never binge watch it, it would be like eating too many jelly beans.
I’ve never actually seen Wild Wild West…it just seemed too silly & “bizarre” to me. But, maybe sometime I’ll check it out.
I actually think the first season of WWW was probably the best. It was black & white but from the one or two episodes I saw it seems like it was more down-to-earth (more realistic? yeah I know that's a stretch) than the later seasons in color. I didn't mind Miguelito Loveless as a villain but his plots were always so bizarre - I remember one where he shrunk Jim West to the size of a grape or something and a cat was chasing him :roll: and then there was another one about some haunted house that made people who enter it age drastically in a matter of seconds. Maybe some people like this sort of stuff but to me it's just waaaay out there and pure fantasy. That's why I prefer the few episodes that I saw in season 1 where it just seemed more "realistic" (not really, but at least more acceptable to me) - one was "The Night of the Steel Assassin" where John Dehner played an android-like assassin (shades of The Terminator) and another was "The Night of the Burning Diamond" with Robert Drivas (Chris Vashon from the classic V for Vashon trilogy on Hawaii Five-O) playing a diamond expert who has the capability to slightly accelerate time to commit perfect crimes. Sure, it's comic book villainy stuff but somehow those 2 in season 1 stood out to me as more clever and more grounded in their approach. Even though I do realize that "grounded" hardly applies to a series like WWW. :wink:

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