Hawaii Five-O: Any Fans?

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Take a look at TV listings from the 50’s and 60’s. There’s a lot of programming there that is long forgotten.

Whoah!! Hold on a second there!

I Love Lucy
The Honeymooners
Leave it to Beaver
Gunsmoke
Have Gun, Will Travel
The Rifleman
Wanted: Dead or Alive
Bonanza
The Big Valley
The Andy Griffith Show
The Dick Van Dyke Show
The Twilight Zone
Gilligan's Island
The Beverly Hillbillies
I Dream of Jeannie
Get Smart
Hogan's Heroes
Mission: Impossible
Mannix
****HAWAII FIVE-OOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!*****

Book that, Danno!!!!

Seriously, all these shows that I just listed are regularly shown (some on multiple channels) here in Philly!!! And all of these are shows that I particularly am a fan of! If they're on I'm likely to sit down and watch, even if I saw the episode before.

And I didn't even mention other shows like Perry Mason, The Fugitive, Man from UNCLE, Wild Wild West, I Spy, Maverick, Wagon Train, Peter Gunn, The Virginian, Star Trek, Bewitched, Green Acres, The Munsters, Gomer Pyle, Danny Thomas Show, Burns & Allen, etc. that are shown regularly and certainly not forgotten. Yikes, that's a lot of classic television!!! They even show Trackdown, The Rebel, I Married Joan, Wyatt Earp, That Girl, Joey Bishop Show, and other more obscure titles.

Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!!! (click)

[T.Q.]

While You're at It, Bring in the Moon

Some interesting things.

Not awesome.

Some great guest stars.

MPI: Herman Wedemeyer - The Curse of the King Kamehameha Club (1981). hey we just watched in the 40th watch party.

Cloth of Gold

I liked this one quite a bit.

Good intrigue. Good whodunit. Good murder weapon. Good ending.

MPI: Harry Endo and Extensive use of Robin's Nest (and the real inside) and even Island Hoppers showed up.

[Pahonu]

Take a look at TV listings from the 50’s and 60’s. There’s a lot of programming there that is long forgotten.

Whoah!! Hold on a second there!

I Love Lucy
The Honeymooners
Leave it to Beaver
Gunsmoke
Have Gun, Will Travel
The Rifleman
Wanted: Dead or Alive
Bonanza
The Big Valley
The Andy Griffith Show
The Dick Van Dyke Show
The Twilight Zone
Gilligan's Island
The Beverly Hillbillies
I Dream of Jeannie
Get Smart
Hogan's Heroes
Mission: Impossible
Mannix
****HAWAII FIVE-OOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!*****

Book that, Danno!!!!

Seriously, all these shows that I just listed are regularly shown (some on multiple channels) here in Philly!!! And all of these are shows that I particularly am a fan of! If they're on I'm likely to sit down and watch, even if I saw the episode before.

And I didn't even mention other shows like Perry Mason, The Fugitive, Man from UNCLE, Wild Wild West, I Spy, Maverick, Wagon Train, Peter Gunn, The Virginian, Star Trek, Bewitched, Green Acres, The Munsters, Gomer Pyle, Danny Thomas Show, Burns & Allen, etc. that are shown regularly and certainly not forgotten. Yikes, that's a lot of classic television!!! They even show Trackdown, The Rebel, I Married Joan, Wyatt Earp, That Girl, Joey Bishop Show, and other more obscure titles.

Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!!! (click)

Edit:
I’m putting this first because I didn’t want you to miss it. If you don’t mind, where are you in Philly? I’ve been twice and the most recent time we stayed with my now brother-in-law, my wife’s sister’s husband. They live on the Jersey Shore now, but he had a condo at a pier on the river. You could see the Ben Franklin Bridge and we could walk right to the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall. It was a really cool place! I still tell my students about standing where the founding fathers stood. Sorry, I just did a little history dork out there!

Now, back to our regular programming.

You may not be so shocked by this. Do a little quick math. Add up all those hours of programming you listed and figure out what percentage that represents out of 3 hours of prime time programming, 7 days a week, for 2 decades, on 3 networks (sometimes 4 with Dumont). That’s over 65 thousand hours of just prime time programming slots available. If you don’t want to do the math:

If all the shows you mentioned were an hour long, lasted 15 years and made 50 episodes a season, which is vastly overestimated, it wouldn’t even total half of the prime time programming hours.

You forgot these shows:

Blue Light
The Farmer’s Daughter
The John Forsythe Show
Camp Runamuck
The Hippodrome
The Long Hot Summer
Mickey Finns
The John Gary Show
The Double Life of Henry Phyfe
Slattery’s People
The Trials of O’Brien
Mina McCluskey
The Baron
Hank
The Loner
Tammy

These were all prime time shows in just the 1965-66 season!

We remember the good stuff precisely because it was good, and we rewatch it for the same reason. We quickly forget much of the rest, whose quality was lesser. Everything can’t be great from those years. Even if we remember a name or title like John Forsythe above, I don’t think a lot of people are still watching Sing Along With Mitch or Hullabaloo.

That being said, I have no problem if a new cable channel started showing any of those shows. The more choices, the better, as I argued above. It just doesn’t seem like there would be much of an audience. The same is likely true for shows from the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s etc... Some will become classics and be watched by generations to come, and others forgotten.

[Pahonu]

While You're at It, Bring in the Moon

Some interesting things.

Not awesome.

Some great guest stars.

Cloth of Gold

I liked this one quite a bit.

Good intrigue. Good whodunit. Good murder weapon. Good ending.

MPI: Extensive use of Robin's Nest (and the real inside) and even Island Hoppers showed up.

Cloth of Gold is a favorite of mine, but I may be biased by Pahonu prominence! You get to see two upstairs bedrooms never seen in MPI. I remember randomly seeing this episode in the 80’s and suddenly recognizing the estate. I slammed a cassette into the VCR to record it. I watched it many more times after that, long before streaming and DVD purchases of entire series was possible.

Glad you liked it on its merits. The estate features prominently in Woe to Wo Fat in the final season and it’s... less good, I’ll say.

I believe Zulu cited this as his favorite.

[Mad Kudu Buck]

Dang guys! I don’t care for the super hero movies or hobbits or dragons either, but there’s still some interesting stuff out there. Kind of sound like the cranky old neighbor telling us to get off his lawn. You guys are both younger than me!... I think.

No, you're both younger than me. Now get the hell off my lawn.

Yes, it's possible there's some good stuff I've missed. All I know is - I hate modern "drunken, shaky camera" filming, I hate modern "sentence-fragment scripts", I hate modern "iTunes hits soundtracks", I hate modern "attitude" acting styles, I hate modern "speed up and slow down" camera moves - and most of all, I hate the incredibly subversive propaganda that seems to be in every modern movie and TV show.

Yes, propaganda has always been in entertainment, even back in the 50's - but the percentage of propaganda has massively increased in the last couple decades. I've "seen behind the curtain" and it can't be unseen.

[Pahonu]

Dang guys! I don’t care for the super hero movies or hobbits or dragons either, but there’s still some interesting stuff out there. Kind of sound like the cranky old neighbor telling us to get off his lawn. You guys are both younger than me!... I think.

No, you're both younger than me. Now get the hell off my lawn.

Yes, it's possible there's some good stuff I've missed. All I know is - I hate modern "drunken, shaky camera" filming, I hate modern "sentence-fragment scripts", I hate modern "iTunes hits soundtracks", I hate modern "attitude" acting styles, I hate modern "speed up and slow down" camera moves - and most of all, I hate the incredibly subversive propaganda that seems to be in every modern movie and TV show.

Yes, propaganda has always been in entertainment, even back in the 50's - but the percentage of propaganda has massively increased in the last couple decades. I've "seen behind the curtain" and it can't be unseen.

I’m not certain what you are specifically referencing. What are some examples you feel are propaganda in all of these TV shows and films? Simply presenting a differing political, religious, or social position from one’s own isn’t usually considered propagandistic. The definition generally also includes terms such as misinformation, deception, lies of omission, or absolute lies.

We’re talking about fictional entertainment here so I’m struggling to see any kind of systematic deception in the storytelling. The kind of programming we’ve been discussing all along is not presented as factual. These are fictional stories.

Subversion suggests attempting to replace or overthrow an existing political, religious, or social system. This is highly relative. For example a group labeled subversive inside a dictatorship may be trying to replace it with a democratic system. Most would argue that is a good thing. What system are you suggesting is being subverted?

[Pahonu]

Dang guys! I don’t care for the super hero movies or hobbits or dragons either, but there’s still some interesting stuff out there. Kind of sound like the cranky old neighbor telling us to get off his lawn. You guys are both younger than me!... I think.

No, you're both younger than me. Now get the hell off my lawn.

Yes, it's possible there's some good stuff I've missed. All I know is - I hate modern "drunken, shaky camera" filming, I hate modern "sentence-fragment scripts", I hate modern "iTunes hits soundtracks", I hate modern "attitude" acting styles, I hate modern "speed up and slow down" camera moves - and most of all, I hate the incredibly subversive propaganda that seems to be in every modern movie and TV show.

Yes, propaganda has always been in entertainment, even back in the 50's - but the percentage of propaganda has massively increased in the last couple decades. "seen behind the curtain" and it can't be unseen.

I hate shaky camera filming also, but I’m intrigued, actually more uncertain, about the rest of your post.

What are you are specifically referencing? What are some examples you feel are propaganda in all of these TV shows and films? Simply presenting a differing political, religious, or social position from one’s own isn’t usually considered propagandistic. The definition generally also includes terms such as misinformation, deception, lies of omission, or absolute lies.

We’re talking about fictional entertainment here so I’m struggling to see any kind of systematic deception in the storytelling. The kind of programming we’ve been discussing all along is not presented as factual. These are fictional stories.

Subversion suggests attempting to replace or overthrow an existing political, religious, or social system. This is highly relative. For example a group labeled subversive inside a dictatorship may be trying to replace it with a democratic system. Most would argue that is a good thing. What system are you suggesting is being subverted?

[T.Q.]

Nooooo

Hopefully we're not gonna get into an argument about how social justice issues (real and perceived) of every stripe have seeped into entertainment.

I see it but don't wish to debate it.

[Pahonu]

Nooooo

Hopefully we're not gonna get into an argument about how social justice issues (real and perceived) of every stripe have seeped into entertainment.

I see it but don't wish to debate it.

With more content from more creators, I think more varied viewpoints are inevitable. No argument there. Labeling these different perspectives as subversive propaganda seems somewhat hyperbolic, however. I suppose my struggle is with why some individuals seem so bothered, some even angered, that more voices are being heard. Everyone having a voice is at the center of western democratic thought. I find variety to be fascinating in so many things, like food or music or clothing. I don’t like them all, but knowing that I have so many choices seems good to me. I understand there are those who prefer to eat the same thing every day, which is their right, but being upset by others eating differently though, just seems odd to me. What does that accomplish?

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

You forgot these shows:

Blue Light
The Farmer’s Daughter
The John Forsythe Show
Camp Runamuck
The Hippodrome
The Long Hot Summer
Mickey Finns
The John Gary Show
The Double Life of Henry Phyfe
Slattery’s People
The Trials of O’Brien
Mina McCluskey
The Baron
Hank
The Loner
Tammy

These were all prime time shows in just the 1965-66 season!

You know, I've actually heard of some of these! For instance, Lalo Schifrin's score for BLUE LIGHT was the inspiration for his iconic MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE theme a year later! You also left off HONEY WEST off your list as well as T.H.E. CAT (neither of which I've seen). Yes, I'm an old-school TV geek. But you know what? I'd probably watch any of those on your list over what's being shown today.

Conclusion? Today's TV sucks major sucks!!!!! You know what the last show that I really loved was? "24" and that was over a decade ago. In fact I own all 8 seasons on DVD. For a time it became my all-time favorite show. That was some truly gripping and addictive television! And it was network TV too - FOX! I believe this show started the whole "binge-watching" craze. You couldn't wait to see the next episode to see what happens next! Since then the only show that I found enjoyable was PERSON OF INTEREST (CBS). I only saw the first season, then got sidetracked. Maybe I'll resume the show at some point. It did have some shades of "24" to it, hence why it appealed to me. But everything else is a wasteland out there. I'm not wasting my time on endless reboots (Five-0, MPI, MacGyver, SWAT, Walker, endless NCIS clones, etc) or the filthy stuff on cable. Ditto on Kudu Buck's echoes of endless propaganda and "this is the way things are today, so get used to it". Well, I don't want to get used to it.

Now, get off my lawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (blast)

[Pahonu]

You forgot these shows:

Blue Light
The Farmer’s Daughter
The John Forsythe Show
Camp Runamuck
The Hippodrome
The Long Hot Summer
Mickey Finns
The John Gary Show
The Double Life of Henry Phyfe
Slattery’s People
The Trials of O’Brien
Mina McCluskey
The Baron
Hank
The Loner
Tammy

These were all prime time shows in just the 1965-66 season!

You know, I've actually heard of some of these! For instance, Lalo Schifrin's score for BLUE LIGHT was the inspiration for his iconic MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE theme a year later! You also left off HONEY WEST off your list as well as T.H.E. CAT (neither of which I've seen). Yes, I'm an old-school TV geek. But you know what? I'd probably watch any of those on your list over what's being shown today.

Conclusion? Today's TV sucks major sucks!!!!! You know what the last show that I really loved was? "24" and that was over a decade ago. In fact I own all 8 seasons on DVD. For a time it became my all-time favorite show. That was some truly gripping and addictive television! And it was network TV too - FOX! I believe this show started the whole "binge-watching" craze. You couldn't wait to see the next episode to see what happens next! Since then the only show that I found enjoyable was PERSON OF INTEREST (CBS). I only saw the first season, then got sidetracked. Maybe I'll resume the show at some point. It did have some shades of "24" to it, hence why it appealed to me. But everything else is a wasteland out there. I'm not wasting my time on endless reboots (Five-0, MPI, MacGyver, SWAT, Walker, endless NCIS clones, etc) or the filthy stuff on cable. Ditto on Kudu Buck's echoes of endless propaganda and "this is the way things are today, so get used to it". Well, I don't want to get used to it.

Now, get off my lawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (blast)

24 was fantastic! I don’t watch any reboots either. I like to poke around for unique things that I haven’t seen before. I’ll give them a try and sometimes I give up but often I stay tuned. I guess I’m just not willing to give up looking for new things. Sometimes that means searching for obscure old shows that seem like something I would like, ie Ellery Queen, City of Angels, Banyon, BUT it also includes looking for new things as well. I’ve been pleasantly surprised many times by some recent shows.

My wife recently found a French series, called Lupin. It’s based loosely on a French literary character in the Sherlock Holmes mold. It’s a modern story with the old books central to the plot. We both enjoyed the first four episodes and are waiting for the next batch to stream.

I also thought of an animated show (almost wrote cartoon) that I watched early in the pandemic: Archer. It may not be your thing but I find it hilarious.

The get of my lawn comment is going to haunt me!

I think it’s going to get exhausting resisting change. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, the only thing constant in this universe IS change. Don’t get too tired!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

While You're at It, Bring in the Moon

Some interesting things.

Not awesome.

Some great guest stars.

MPI: Herman Wedemeyer - The Curse of the King Kamehameha Club (1981). hey we just watched in the 40th watch party.

Cloth of Gold

I liked this one quite a bit.

Good intrigue. Good whodunit. Good murder weapon. Good ending.

MPI: Harry Endo and Extensive use of Robin's Nest (and the real inside) and even Island Hoppers showed up.

Both excellent episodes!

Bring in the Moon has an intriguing plot where McGarrett is kidnapped to prove a man innocent. Barry Sullivan does a good job playing the Howard Hughes-type recluse who is being framed. I really like the investigation and the reveal of how the actual crime was committed was pretty ingenious (if maybe a tad far-fetched). Did you notice the standoff/staredown at the end between McGarrett and Ed Flanders was filmed at Robin's Nest? Looks like it's right there by the sea wall. So that's 2 back-to-back episodes filmed here. Flanders played the drug-dispensing professor in season 1's "Up Tight", the scientist who created the deadly bacteria strain in season 2's "Three Dead Cows at Makapuu", and the Russian violinist in season 3's "The Guarnerius Caper" whose "fiddle" is stolen by the 2 creeps. He'll show up 2 more times on the show, for a total of 6 appearances! In the 80s he was in the TV show ST. ELSEWHERE, before committing suicide in 1995. Also, I believe this is the first episode where Herman Wedemeyer plays Duke, a member of the HPD. His proper introduction will be in the season 5 premiere, where the plot will actually revolve around him.

Cloth of Gold definitely makes my top 5 for the season! Love the mystery aspect of it all, the way each of the 3 meet their bitter end, all the beautiful location shots at Robin's Nest and lots of outdoor filming on the water and underwater. Love the score by Don Ray in this one too! Very mysterious and suspenseful! Did you notice that when the 2 guys go diving (supposedly in the middle of the ocean) you can see overhead what looks like the ceiling of an aquarium. That's because that scene was shot underwater at the aquarium at Sea Life Park. I was there, you know. So I instantly recognized that ceiling. Of course the murder weapon itself is probably the most unique one in the entire series! Loved it! It's true that this was Zulu's favorite episode (where his character seems to be particularly jumpy about what's going on), along with season 1's "Strangers in Our Own Land" which dealt with the topic of Hawaiian sovereignty and the exploitation of the islands.

[Pahonu]

While You're at It, Bring in the Moon

Some interesting things.

Not awesome.

Some great guest stars.

MPI: Herman Wedemeyer - The Curse of the King Kamehameha Club (1981). hey we just watched in the 40th watch party.

Cloth of Gold

I liked this one quite a bit.

Good intrigue. Good whodunit. Good murder weapon. Good ending.

MPI: Harry Endo and Extensive use of Robin's Nest (and the real inside) and even Island Hoppers showed up.

Both excellent episodes!

Bring in the Moon has an intriguing plot where McGarrett is kidnapped to prove a man innocent. Barry Sullivan does a good job playing the Howard Hughes-type recluse who is being framed. I really like the investigation and the reveal of how the actual crime was committed was pretty ingenious (if maybe a tad far-fetched). Did you notice the standoff/staredown at the end between McGarrett and Ed Flanders was filmed at Robin's Nest? Looks like it's right there by the sea wall. So that's 2 back-to-back episodes filmed here. Flanders played the drug-dispensing professor in season 1's "Up Tight", the scientist who created the deadly bacteria strain in season 2's "Three Dead Cows at Makapuu", and the Russian violinist in season 3's "The Guarnerius Caper" whose "fiddle" is stolen by the 2 creeps. He'll show up 2 more times on the show, for a total of 6 appearances! In the 80s he was in the TV show ST. ELSEWHERE, before committing suicide in 1995. Also, I believe this is the first episode where Herman Wedemeyer plays Duke, a member of the HPD. His proper introduction will be in the season 5 premiere, where the plot will actually revolve around him.

Cloth of Gold definitely makes my top 5 for the season! Love the mystery aspect of it all, the way each of the 3 meet their bitter end, all the beautiful location shots at Robin's Nest and lots of outdoor filming on the water and underwater. Love the score by Don Ray in this one too! Very mysterious and suspenseful! Did you notice that when the 2 guys go diving (supposedly in the middle of the ocean) you can see overhead what looks like the ceiling of an aquarium. That's because that scene was shot underwater at the aquarium at Sea Life Park. I was there, you know. So I instantly recognized that ceiling. Of course the murder weapon itself is probably the most unique one in the entire series! Loved it! It's true that this was Zulu's favorite episode (where his character seems to be particularly jumpy about what's going on), along with season 1's "Strangers in Our Own Land" which dealt with the topic of Hawaiian sovereignty and the exploitation of the islands.

I agree, the music in Cloth of Gold is quite unique. I’ve watched it enough that I did notice the ceiling you describe in Sea Life Park. You see something like it in the scene where they talk to the marine biologist about the cone snail. I also like the freeze frame ending of the body in the water. The boat they use is a Tahiti Ketch, by the way.

Check out the In Popular Culture tab in the link below:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conus_textile

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

I’ve watched it enough that I did notice the ceiling you describe in Sea Life Park. You see something like it in the scene where they talk to the marine biologist about the cone snail.

Exactly! The later scene where they talk to the marine biologist you can see it's filmed at exactly that aquarium with that same ceiling that we saw earlier in the "underwater ocean" shots.

Check out the In Popular Culture tab in the link below:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conus_textile

Haha, you can bet I immediately researched this "cloth of gold" cone after watching this episode. I really was intrigued whether this was a real thing or something made-up. I was pleasantly surprised that it's indeed a real thing. And yes the Five-O reference in that Wiki was a cool touch!

[T.Q.]

Good Night, Baby - Time to Die! today.

Wasn’t finding it too groovy with the long drawn out conversations with McGarrett and the girl throughout.

Was thinking bit boring.

And then comes another great twist at the end. Bang, right in the kisser.

Great ending.

MPI: William Watson was a goon in one episode.