Season 1 Episode 19: Blood in the Water (1.19)

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Re: Season 1 Episode 19: Blood in the Water (1.19)

#31 Post by T.Q. »

KENJI wrote:I liked parts of this one, but feel they still squish to much content in the episode (i.e. two storylines) and then when it comes to the end of the show everything is too fast/rushed and convenient because they ran out of time. I would rather see in some episodes like this one ,only one storyline and use that 10 minutes to do a better job on the main storyline.
Does anyone have a guess on what the T.R. Belle stands for?
Sort of like the hole in the boat with 8 minutes left in the show that meant nothing (zero suspense) because you know “Rick” and “T.C.” are gonna pull up in 30 seconds?

Yeah, I watched last 20 minutes....

Still think the writing is atrocious*.

Really surprised so many here now like it.

To each their own I guess.

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* I saw the preview of next week. They treat Jordana Brewster’s character like this is some 8 season long storyline. I found it amusing.
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Re: Season 1 Episode 19: Blood in the Water (1.19)

#32 Post by Luther's nephew Dobie »

Laohu wrote:
KENJI wrote:I liked parts of this one, but feel they still squish to much content in the episode (i.e. two storylines) and then when it comes to the end of the show everything is too fast/rushed and convenient because they ran out of time. I would rather see in some episodes like this one ,only one storyline and use that 10 minutes to do a better job on the main storyline.
Does anyone have a guess on what the T.R. Belle stands for?
Not sure what T.R Belle stands for hope they come back to it in another episode and just don’t drop it .
I agree with you Kenji about running short on time . I think the problem is that they have to many characters . Each week they pair Magnum with one character this week Higgins that leaves pairing two other characters this week it was Rick and T.C. .that leaves Kumu,Katsumoto and and whatever guest characters not much screen time .
This was a good episode I really think having Justin Lin direct the pilot of the series was a huge mistake . He went to far over the top and set the wrong tone for the show . As the season has progressed we have seen it dialed back and as a result has gotten better.
Laohu,
I think you put your finger on a big drawback, too many characters with the result much of the input by the support cast isn't needed, they are just shoe horned in.
It occurs to me that the way Rick and TC are presented, they are stand ins for the Fan Boy demographic that tunes in for the Bullets & Babes action and dream how
cool it would be to be Magnum's sidekicks.
A flaw in this episode's logic is why when Higgins and Magnum got the original SOS call, they didn't themselves call the Coast Guard as they raced to the 'sinking'.
They wouldn't have been stranded in the ocean and later on the island if they had done that, which is what any sailor would have done right off.
Later, when TC and Rick discover where Higgins/Magnum's actual last location was, they head out without telling the Coast Guard when every second counted and a
rescue helicopter would have made better time.
Again, some of the banter doesn't make sense given that Magnum is a highly educated Annapolis grad, who worked in Intelligence. He seriously tells Higgins he doesn't
know what "major domo" means. He acts like a yokel with the vocabulary of a 12 year old when in a flashback scene, he first enters the guest house at Robins Nest:
"Wow! This place is the most insane place I think I've ever seen in my life. This is crazy!"
Once at Annapolis Magnum and his classmates would automatically been invited in to the High Society swirl of the Maryland horse country and northern Virginia.
He would have been to Deb Balls hosted at estates that dwarfed Robins Nest in scale and history, serious old line money. He wouldn't deem it 'crazy' that the
guest house was plush. Again, I'd bet the producers are wedging in awkward dialogue into a character's mouth that would more fit what a Fan Boy would say
to appeal to that demo, instead of being true to the character.
If they would stop doing that and realize these guys are combat veterans, people who made life and death decisions, who gave commands knowing others
would likely die as a result, that they wear big boy pants and aren't 17, then the show would be much better, IMHO.
It doesn't help that the mutt playing Rick is a poor actor with no gravitas.
That said, I think the series has improved weekly over the last 7 episodes, the mass firefights are gone.

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Re: Season 1 Episode 19: Blood in the Water (1.19)

#33 Post by Laohu »

Dobie I kind of took Magnum mispronouncing major domo as a dig at Higgins he just wanted to antagonize her. From her expression I think she understood that he knew and was behaving like a child . We see this again with him putting his hat on the statue ( not sure who’s head that is ) Higgins just can’t help herself and has to remove it . Magnum knows it bothers Higgins so from then on that is his hat rack . You can see it resting there in earlier episodes .
You are right about the plot holes I see them in Hawaii 50 as well . Are they using the same writers ? Now that the writers have a season under there belt I hope they come back strong for season 2 .

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#34 Post by KENJI »

Steve wrote:I truly enjoyed this episode, yes, it was indeed a nod to "Home From The Sea" or as close as the writers would want to get. I liked the flashbacks to when Juliette and Magnum first met and his first days at Robins Nest, but I would have loved to have seen the 308 GTS when Magnum told Juliette he didn't have any money or transportation. I was looking forward to a couple of good episodes during the April sweeps but looks like the next episode is the season final, should be good as it will bring the mysterious Hannah character back.....

(I look forward to the debate if Idris Elba is named the next Bond :wink: )
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I agree with you on the 308.
That would've been a perfect time to slip the 308 in there one more time or when Thomas was working on one of the other Ferraris....the 308 would've been the perfect car to be working on.

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Laohu wrote:Dobie I kind of took Magnum mispronouncing major domo as a dig at Higgins he just wanted to antagonize her. From her expression I think she understood that he knew and was behaving like a child . We see this again with him putting his hat on the statue ( not sure who’s head that is ) Higgins just can’t help herself and has to remove it . Magnum knows it bothers Higgins so from then on that is his hat rack . You can see it resting there in earlier episodes .
You are right about the plot holes I see them in Hawaii 50 as well . Are they using the same writers ? Now that the writers have a season under there belt I hope they come back strong for season 2 .
I see where Dobie is coming from, but I agree that Magnum is just trying to get Juliette's goat. He shows how competent he is at his job (seemingly) in spite of his immature and nonchalant behavior.

As for not calling the Coast Guard right away? That does seem like a writing flub.

Although the pacing of the individual episodes still needs work, the show is starting to find its rhythm. As mentioned above, the action has been toned down. Even the original Magnum had to figure out its pacing and tone as the first season went along. I recently caught "No Need to Know" on COZI and found it a fantastic mixed bag: the acting and writing were solid, but the Higgins "body check" thing was out of character, and even that episode had a machine gun moment when that guy is shot in the tidal pool by the bodyguards (who even knows how the government allowed them into Robin's Nest...).

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#36 Post by Higgins (aka Bondtoys) »

Absolutely loved that episode!

I mean, Magnum PI was always about camaraderie and this was all about where everybody came from and how they stand for each other when things get rough.

And the bickering gets more convincing, when the action is getting toned down.
Happy that they will all return for another season, this has potential to run much longer!

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Bondtoys.de wrote:Absolutely loved that episode!

Happy that they will all return for another season, this has potential to run much longer!
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Re: Season 1 Episode 19: Blood in the Water (1.19)

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Amian wrote: I see where Dobie is coming from, but I agree that Magnum is just trying to get Juliette's goat.
So, there were goats but no sharks? Or were there goats AND sharks?

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#39 Post by Laohu »

Well there was talk of sharks I guess they’re not as predictable as we thought they were.

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Happy that they will all return for another season, this has potential to run much longer!
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Did anyone notice that one of the boats in the dock had the name Minnow ? Could this be a tip off to Lenkovnext reboot ?

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Laohu wrote:Did anyone notice that one of the boats in the dock had the name Minnow ? Could this be a tip off to Lenkovnext reboot ?
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Chris109 wrote:
Amian wrote: I see where Dobie is coming from, but I agree that Magnum is just trying to get Juliette's goat.
So, there were goats but no sharks? Or were there goats AND sharks?
Wouldn't ewe like to know. (rimshot) I kid, I kid. (Ba dum, tish)

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Laohu wrote:Well there was talk of sharks I guess they’re not as predictable as we thought they were.
I for sure can see one of the haters spinning it to

>> They even screwed that up! Have they ever watched the original series? <<

while to be perfectly honest, in the first seconds of the episode, there is an unrelated shark shot.....
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#45 Post by Luther's nephew Dobie »

Laohu wrote:Dobie I kind of took Magnum mispronouncing major domo as a dig at Higgins he just wanted to antagonize her. From her expression I think she understood that he knew and was behaving like a child . We see this again with him putting his hat on the statue ( not sure who’s head that is ) Higgins just can’t help herself and has to remove it . Magnum knows it bothers Higgins so from then on that is his hat rack . You can see it resting there in earlier episodes .
You are right about the plot holes I see them in Hawaii 50 as well . Are they using the same writers ? Now that the writers have a season under there belt I hope they come back strong for season 2 .
Lahou,
You noted the "bit" where Magnum keeps putting his hat on the statue just to toy with Higgins in a way where if she responds orally she looks foolish while also
underlining she is a bit of a tight ass. Now this is worthy of the original series and is actually charming because it is so understated and gives the viewers credit
that we will get it.
But to me this is the exception that proves the rule and makes me wonder since they can "get it" why there isn't more of it.
The first 12 episodes were terrible, the writing a blunt sledgehammer with too many loud explosions and boom booms from
the School of Clowns brain trust that ruined Hawaii 5-0.
But since about half way through the run when they got the word there was to be another season, that there could be a
steady paycheck long term, it looks like everyone is trying harder.
TC actually seems to have a pulse and isn't sleep walking thru the few lines he gets anymore.
Jay seems more comfortable as Magnum but then he had no where to go but up. I realize it's merely my personal take but I no longer hate Jay on sight but
have resigned myself that in this alternate Magnum Universe he can be a benign presence and not a irritant. That the producers have now created a de facto
Magnum/Higgins team( though a major departure from Classic Magnum) is actually a point in their favor because this series wasn't going to succeed if it
had to depend on Jay's ability alone as a leading man star in the Selleck mode.
With that change, and as you pointed out the writers having a season under their belt, hopefully next season will be better and the series will be an acceptable
diversion for a Monday night. It really has improved since the awful start. Hopefully they will get more creative, and since they share the same facilities/crews etc
with Hawaii 5-0 it would be a natural to stunt cast the people/roles from there on Magnum, as others have suggested on these Boards.
The now unemployed Grace Parks would be a good ongoing love interest for Magnum, have her and Higgins despise each other on sight, throw in a cat fight and
Bobs Your Uncle. I guess a mud wrestling match is out of the question, the PC Police and our fellow Mania poster Chris 109 would have a fit.

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