The Robin Masters Estate (Pahonu)

[Higgins (aka Bondtoys)]

Old door looks significantly higher, too. Just check with the stones on the right wall

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Yep it definitely looks like a different gate (and single gate as mentioned) with the turtle in the center. Notice also that on the show we don't see the "Pahonu" on the stone wall so I'm guessing this was added when the new gate with the turtle was installed. Of course "pahonu" means turtle so that would make sense. How silly of me to forget that the 2 circular symbols on the gate said "RM"... Duh!

RG, that's a great scene! Even though it makes me wince when I see those 2 gates close in on one of the lads. Was that Zeus or Apollo? REAL Magnum fans should know this.

EDIT: Or maybe the fake address plaque covered up the "Pahonu" on the stone wall in the show.

[Steve]

I wonder what happened to those gates.......Did they stay on the property or go to the studio warehouse along with the other props. They would sure be a cool addition to a certain members Tiki Bar I have read about. Also, does anyone know if the turtle gates were on during the Hawaii 5-0 days or did they even show the gates in any of those episodes where the Anderson Estate was used?

[Pahonu]

Yep it definitely looks like a different gate (and single gate as mentioned) with the turtle in the center. Notice also that on the show we don't see the "Pahonu" on the stone wall so I'm guessing this was added when the new gate with the turtle was installed. Of course "pahonu" means turtle so that would make sense. How silly of me to forget that the 2 circular symbols on the gate said "RM"... Duh!

RG, that's a great scene! Even though it makes me wince when I see those 2 gates close in on one of the lads. Was that Zeus or Apollo? REAL Magnum fans should know this.

EDIT: Or maybe the fake address plaque covered up the "Pahonu" on the stone wall in the show.

Slight correction: "honu" means turtle, specifically the Hawaiian green sea turtle, and I believe "pahonu" means turtle enclosure, describing the tidepool's use by ali'i.

[Pahonu]

I wonder what happened to those gates.......Did they stay on the property or go to the studio warehouse along with the other props. They would sure be a cool addition to a certain members Tiki Bar I have read about. Also, does anyone know if the turtle gates were on during the Hawaii 5-0 days or did they even show the gates in any of those episodes where the Anderson Estate was used?

There's a Hawaii Five-O episode showing wooden gates there.

http://magnum-mania.com/Forum/viewtopic ... &start=105

[Rembrandt's Girl]

I wonder what happened to those gates.......Did they stay on the property or go to the studio warehouse along with the other props. They would sure be a cool addition to a certain members Tiki Bar I have read about. Also, does anyone know if the turtle gates were on during the Hawaii 5-0 days or did they even show the gates in any of those episodes where the Anderson Estate was used?

Funny our different interpretations/assumptions. I assumed that the gates with waves at the top were just Pahonu's day-to-day gates, and whenever there was a scene involving the gates, they put the RM crests on and then removed them when done with that scene. In other words, they were simple props that were somewhat easily put on/taken off.

I assumed the honu gate came much later since we're talking about decades later now.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Yep it definitely looks like a different gate (and single gate as mentioned) with the turtle in the center. Notice also that on the show we don't see the "Pahonu" on the stone wall so I'm guessing this was added when the new gate with the turtle was installed. Of course "pahonu" means turtle so that would make sense. How silly of me to forget that the 2 circular symbols on the gate said "RM"... Duh!

RG, that's a great scene! Even though it makes me wince when I see those 2 gates close in on one of the lads. Was that Zeus or Apollo? REAL Magnum fans should know this.

EDIT: Or maybe the fake address plaque covered up the "Pahonu" on the stone wall in the show.

Slight correction: "honu" means turtle, specifically the Hawaiian green sea turtle, and I believe "pahonu" means turtle enclosure, describing the tidepool's use by ali'i.

Ah, my mistake! Thanks Pahonu. I assume you should know.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

I wonder what happened to those gates.......Did they stay on the property or go to the studio warehouse along with the other props. They would sure be a cool addition to a certain members Tiki Bar I have read about. Also, does anyone know if the turtle gates were on during the Hawaii 5-0 days or did they even show the gates in any of those episodes where the Anderson Estate was used?

Steve, to answer your question... below are my Five-O screencaps...

The following 5 pics are from the season 3 episode "The Second Shot" (1970)

The main gates are wooden! Even I forgot about this, despite having seen the episode numerous times.




Here you can see a small side door to the left of the gate for a man to enter through without having to open the main gate.






Here you can see "Pahonu" on the wall. I guess I answered my own question - it was there long before MAGNUM.




When the main wooden gate is opened, what's there? A second gate/fence! Not really sure what purpose this one served.




Here are some more views of the second gate/fence from the season 2 episode "Forty Feet High and It Kills!" (1969)

[Rembrandt's Girl]

Thanks for the pics, Ivan!

I just had a thought... since it seems Eve was certainly frugal, I would bet money that the wooden gates were of course her real gates, and the gates we see in MPI were part of her contract to film there... they would replace her old wooden gates with new. Robin Masters certainly couldn't have those horrid old wooden things on his estate!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Thanks for the pics, Ivan!

I just had a thought... since it seems Eve was certainly frugal, I would bet money that the wooden gates were of course her real gates, and the gates we see in MPI were part of her contract to film there... they would replace her old wooden gates with new. Robin Masters certainly couldn't have those horrid old wooden things on his estate!

RG, you might have a point there. Either the MPI team put up those new gates which of course stayed there for the duration of the show and probably even beyond, or Eve herself replaced those wooden gates (which I suppose is possible, frugal or not) sometime before the show started. In either case eventually someone (Eve?) decided to settle on the single gate with the turtle that we see now.

P.S. If it really was the MPI team that installed that gate for some reason I can't imagine once the show ended the MPI team taking down "their" gate and telling Eve to put up her old wooden ones. I think by that point in 1988 the MPI gate had become part of the property. I mean would it be considered a prop? What would they do with it? The show was over. Sell it as a collector's item? I dunno. On the other hand if they did indeed take "their" gate with them and all she was left with was the old wooden gate (if indeed she even kept that gate) then she might have decided to "splurge" (LOL) on a new gate and maybe that's how we end up with the present turtle gate.

[eagle]

I wonder what happened to those gates.......Did they stay on the property or go to the studio warehouse along with the other props. They would sure be a cool addition to a certain members Tiki Bar I have read about. Also, does anyone know if the turtle gates were on during the Hawaii 5-0 days or did they even show the gates in any of those episodes where the Anderson Estate was used?

Funny our different interpretations/assumptions. I assumed that the gates with waves at the top were just Pahonu's day-to-day gates, and whenever there was a scene involving the gates, they put the RM crests on and then removed them when done with that scene. In other words, they were simple props that were somewhat easily put on/taken off.

That (the RM crests were an easily removable prop) was my assumption too, but I didn't know about the older wooden gates.

I still think it's too bad that none of us got a chunk of the rubble.

[KENJI]

Hi Ivan,

I believe the second inner chain link gate was a safety gate to keep Eve's animals inside the estate, preventing them from becoming road kill on that busy highway. Drive between the two gates, close one and open the other and nothing gets out. It's a hassle, but it beats the alternative. Some ranches have this set up to keep cattle contained. As for using in the HFO episode it served as more of a security feature, another layer of defense with armed guards like you might see in a castle.

I'm thinking the old wooden gate may have just got tired (rotten/termites etc.) and/or Eve just got tired of looking at it and she replaced it with the wave gate or like RG said maybe the gate replacement was part of the agreement with filming MPI there which I could also see. If you look at the Z&A gate pic that RG posted you can see that a groove/channel was installed in the actual pavement so I don't think it was a prop. The RM crest was an easy prop to add when needed. I'm guessing the wave gate made it's exit just after MPI filming and may have been an attempt by Eve to change the appearance, hoping fans wouldn't be as interested in taking a pic there (no luck there) or the salt air just ate/rusted away at that gate to the point it needed replacing. The honu gate is even looking tired now so it's probably on borrowed time as well. I could see the new owners wanting to change the appearance of the gate as well to reduce fan pics from taking place...time will tell.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Hi Kenji,

The second gate being to keep the animals in makes sense. I didn't know there were animals on the property. Anyone know what kind of animals Eve kept there? A kudu buck perhaps? When I was there last month the only animals there were chickens. They actually spooked me at first because as I was sneaking around I thought there was someone walking around on the premises (maybe Kenji?) and I'd be spotted. But it was just chickens.

If we go with the assumption that the MPI team (in agreement with Eve) installed the MPI gates then I don't believe the RM crest was a prop. I would assume that the gate was created specifically for the show, with the RM crest. Why bother putting the prop up and taking it down all the time? It's not like Eve would mind, would she? RM could mean literally anything to a passer-by. It's not like it actually says "Robin Masters". I wouldn't be surprised if the RM stayed on the gate even when the show ended. Unless Eve was very particular about such trivial matters. I can't imagine the RM would attract any more visitors than no RM. If you're a hardcore fan you'll find the gate regardless. If you're not then the RM probably won't mean anything to you if you pass by.

[Pahonu]

I have a question about the front gate at the Anderson Estate (Robin's Nest). When did that turtle that's there now appear on the gate? As I watch the episodes I see 2 symbols (can't make out what they are) on both parts of the gate - a circular symbol on the right gate and on the left gate. Anyone know what those are? At some point these 2 things got replaced with a turtle in the center of the gate. Actually it might even be a new gate - probably is. In any case did this happen after the show ended? I haven't seen most of the later season episodes so I'm not sure what the gate looks like there.

I have always thought that the Turtle symbol was always there, they just put a crest with an "M" (for Robin Masters) over the top of it for filming....

I'm not sure when the single turtle gate was installed. For the show it was a double rolling/sliding gate with the split in the middle (remember the Lads getting their heads almost caught?), and there was an "RM" crest on each side. I'm not sure what was really on Pahonu's double gates when they weren't filming... maybe nothing.







Today's gate appears to be a single gate...

This gate seems to have smaller gate in it like the wooden one. Note the lock (door knob?) to the left.

That was most certainly one of the duties of the servants who lived in the gate house, answering unsolicited visitors arriving at the gate.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Pahonu, good eye about spotting the smaller door in the current turtle gate. How did I miss that??

Now I need to check the MPI gate to see if that one also had the door in it. Maybe they all did - the wooden one, the MPI one, and the turtle one.