Deja Vu (1) (6.1)

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#31 Post by Sisophous »

This episode began great but was too slow moving. The funniest part was the beginning with Higgins in the Castle finding out Rick had just arrived after hearing him hollering. Then looking at Higgins mystified when being told TC is on his way but is stuck in Morocco. The whole setup is bizarre.

I grew tired of the constant references to the Vietnam war. Perhaps back in the 80s when this originally aired it had more meaning but today it has lost its significance in the minds of people, so much has changed.

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#32 Post by Sergio »

The Bentley driven by Magnum in this episode (DYM 800) was a James Bond car too:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/cla ... 1-4-litre/
Chassis number 'B129JY' was finally tested at Gurney Nutting on July 15th 1937 and sold new via H R Owen to first owner Miss Josefina Tarafa, of Havana, Cuba for the recorded purpose of touring in the UK. Among the special features of John Blatchey's creation were a set of fitted luggage and the continuation of bonnet louvres through to the bulkhead. After WW2 the car passed into the ownership of Mr Jack Hamson, of Newton Mearns, Strathclyde, Scotland, who retained it until its purchase by Mr Ivor Gordon in 1972. As proprietor of Frank Dale & Stepsons, one of the world's leading Bentley specialists, Mr Gordon maintained the car in first class condition for the next 20 years as part of his private collection. During this time 'B129JY' participated regularly in Concours d'Elegance and other events of the Bentley Drivers' Club. Mr Gordon estimated that he covered over 12,000 miles touring Europe in the car.

One of the major incidents of the Bentley's recent history occurred when it was selected to star in the 1983 James Bond blockbuster: Never Say Never Again. Sean Connery, in his role as Bond, drove the car in several scenes, enhancing its prestige and placing it on that most exclusive of lists: that of 'Bond' cars. The Bentley has also featured in the television series Magnum, P.I. starring Ted Danson, appearing in Déjà Vu, Parts 1 and 2, aired in September/October 1985.
Ted Danson! :oops:

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Sergio wrote:The Bentley driven by Magnum in this episode (DYM 800) was a James Bond car too:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/cla ... 1-4-litre/
Chassis number 'B129JY' was finally tested at Gurney Nutting on July 15th 1937 and sold new via H R Owen to first owner Miss Josefina Tarafa, of Havana, Cuba for the recorded purpose of touring in the UK. Among the special features of John Blatchey's creation were a set of fitted luggage and the continuation of bonnet louvres through to the bulkhead. After WW2 the car passed into the ownership of Mr Jack Hamson, of Newton Mearns, Strathclyde, Scotland, who retained it until its purchase by Mr Ivor Gordon in 1972. As proprietor of Frank Dale & Stepsons, one of the world's leading Bentley specialists, Mr Gordon maintained the car in first class condition for the next 20 years as part of his private collection. During this time 'B129JY' participated regularly in Concours d'Elegance and other events of the Bentley Drivers' Club. Mr Gordon estimated that he covered over 12,000 miles touring Europe in the car.

One of the major incidents of the Bentley's recent history occurred when it was selected to star in the 1983 James Bond blockbuster: Never Say Never Again. Sean Connery, in his role as Bond, drove the car in several scenes, enhancing its prestige and placing it on that most exclusive of lists: that of 'Bond' cars. The Bentley has also featured in the television series Magnum, P.I. starring Ted Danson, appearing in Déjà Vu, Parts 1 and 2, aired in September/October 1985.
Ted Danson! :oops:
Nor would I call a film that made $55mil domestic on a $36mil budget exactly a blockbuster. And just how recent is 1983, really?

But the Ted Danson thing is definitely more laughable.

I hope the seller paid more attention to the provenance of the car than he did to the pop-culture references he is using to bump up the price. He's asking about $40-50 grand over average auction price.

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RamblerReb wrote:When one fires a high-powered rifle without enough eye relief (the distance from the eye to the eyepiece of the scope), the recoil will cause the eyepiece to strike the pars orbitalis, or the upper part of the ocular orbit, leaving a crescent-shaped mark which serves as the badge of membership in the Half-Moon Club.
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IslandHopper wrote:Whenever I watch this episode (part 1 & 2), I am reminded of what a great actor John Hillerman actually is. Not being from the UK, I think his British accent is excellent. Watching him in this episode with British actors and his manufactured British accent illustrates for me what a genuinely great actor he is, especially considering that John Hillerman is from Texas.
No question about it, he's really superb. I'm glad he gets to portray Higgins, a man of honor. I am appreciating Higgins more with each episode I watch each time I watch the series. Yes, there's the acrimony between him and the guys, and sometimes he's difficult, but it doesn't take away from his quality as an honorable and honest man. I would like to be that good.
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Doc Ibold wrote:
Eh, everyone ELSE in Higgins family seems to look like him.

I shudder to think of his sisters!

:)
You made me roar with laughter with that!.... although I don't disparage his looks...
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Jay-Firestorm wrote: * When Magnum is driving in the Bentley, the same shot of him driving around the roundabout near Buckingham Palace is used twice.
My impression is that was intentional. It happened when Magnum was trying to find (I think) the hotel, and thought he could get there by telepathy messages from St. Clair. As he came back for the second time around the roundabout, he said he realized the telepathy wasn't working. I felt it was intended to be a humorous combo of the repeat and his words.
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#38 Post by Doc Fred »

One of the best of the series. I gave it a 10, but really wanted 9.9 to differentiate it from "All For One".

There was nothing I didn't like about this episode except for Magnum doing the gal, knowing her husband and his friend had just died. TC doing the gal in Morocco wasn't much better.

I agree with so many of the comments the rest of you had, so there's no need to repeat.

I absolutely loved Magnum "kidnapping" Higgins and bringing him to the Higgins Estate where Higgie had not been for 40 years; 40 years of exile from his father... It's clear to me that both Higgins and his father both would have liked an earlier reunion after the cold separation they had, but neither had the courage to break the ice. I was very moved by the final scene.. and still am. And, three cheers for Magnum for caring enough about Higgins to force the reunion! I love when any of the four main people are shown to have outstanding character and honor, and Magnum sure did here. Despite the squabbles the guys have, and the loud and angry words, there's no doubt each has great respect and concern for the others.

One little note about the Higgins Estate. When Higgie leaves as a 20-year old, there's a shot of his father facing away from Higgie and sitting by a rectangular pond, giving Higgie a cold and silent goodbye. That site was used in "Chariots of Fire" as Lord Lindsey's estate... it's where Lord Lindsay practiced his hurdles with the glasses of champagne sitting on the top of each hurdle.
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#39 Post by The Birdman »

I don't know if this was in 6.1 or 6.2 because I have DVD and it runs one continuois 'sode as 6.1.
Watch the flash back seen carefully were TM is with the british sniper. Best if you have DVD and can pause.
Note how in some seens the rifle has a hooded front sight, then in others in does not. Why would the prop guy keep giving the actor different rifles for one seen?
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#40 Post by Stelth »

I thought I saw every Magnum episode and then this pops up on Cozi tonight. Seeing it was like a surprise gift. What a great episode. I was happy even though I thought it would only have Higgins and Magnum and then Rick bumbles into it and T.C. is screwed by Rick's shady deals....what a great episode!

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Quite frankly I was confused by many aspects of this episode, and wasn't crazy about part 1 or 2. I gave both a 6.5 and that was generous as I hadn't seen this one in years and by memory expected it to be even worse. Some highlights 1) an awesome castle featured as Robins Keep. Wish we would have seen even more of it inside, cool place! 2) Ricks behavior was hilarious in this one, he acted like a little kid the whole time and totally cracked me up. 3) TC's sidetracked trip. Was that Moracco? How cool that he ends up being enticed and spending the night with that ritch princess or whatever she was. And what a cool house she had! I was in Atlantis Resort in the Bahamas recently and it reminded me of it, water everywhere! Wonder where that place really is/was? 4) Higgins avoidance of seeing his family and the eventual kidnapping by Magnum. Pretty touching scene as he saw his father for the first time in what, like 40 years? I can't help but crack up at the makeup job they did either lol. And has anyone noticed that "old man Higgins" picture is one of the first ten or so pics that shows up in Hillerman's imdb? That kindve sucks for Hillerman's as that wasn't exactly his finest moment looks wise lol. Anyway great and sad ending! I'd always wondered about some of the details of his upbringing and clearly his father was very hard on him and they were not close.

Some low lights 1) the little boy in the sailor suit was beyond stupid! Who was that supposed to be/represent? Magnum and Jeffs "psychic connection"? Jeffrey as a kid? Anyway I found the kid and that silly flute music to be pretty ridiculous and almost laughable. Maybey if they had explained? 2) I thought it was out of character for TM to hook up with his dead buddy's wife. I know the woman was attractive and that Magnums a red blooded American but it just seemed out of character for him in my book. 3) call me crazy but I just don't care for any of the episodes outside of Hawaii. The local is part of what made Magnum so great, I was happier to see them stick to the islands myself.

Overall not a horrible 2 part episode but not one on par for a show as great as Magnum in my humble opinion.


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#42 Post by eagle »

This weekend my wife was asking me when Downton Abbey was going to be available again; I informed her that season 6 is coming up around Christmastime. Then we sat down to watch Magnum, p.i. It isn't her favorite show, but she loves spending time with me, so sometimes she watches MPI with me. The next episode in the list was Deja Vu, so we watched the full 1.5 hours of it, and a few minutes into it I said "Baby, we're watching Downton Abbey tonight!" and gave her a big grin. 8) Little did I know that Robin Masters was wealthier than Lord Grantham.

Anyway, this sure was an interesting episode!

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Anyone know where the Higgins estate is? Can't be too far from London if Higgins drove there and back during daylight hours after the funeral.

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One way down the road:
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The other way down the road:
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K Hale wrote:Anyone know where the Higgins estate is? Can't be too far from London if Higgins drove there and back during daylight hours after the funeral.

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Front gates:
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One way down the road:
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The other way down the road:
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Hi K.Hale..

It was filmed at the Hall Barn.

http://magnum-mania.com/Episodes/Season6/Deja_Vu_2.html
http://www.beaconsfieldhistory.org.uk/c ... arn-estate

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#45 Post by K Hale »

I enjoyed reading this bit about the Reliant Robin. Why would he rent that little thing, it doesn't even look safe... :shock:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliant_Robin
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