The Robin Masters Estate (Pahonu)

[KENJI]

I hope this isn't a belated April Fools joke......terrible news!!
Wondering if any of the news stations will be allowed to film inside before they demolish it for good.
I'm guessing the cost to repair and bring it up to modern day standards wasn't worth it, plus a new home with all the bells and whistles should bring them a better return down the road. I wish it had some sort of historical status and could be saved, maybe we need to start a SAVE PAHONU campaign
Now we know why Lenkov didn't use Pahonu!
I think it would've made an excellent storyline for the pilot where they use Pahonu as Robin's Nest, but then the villain (Ivan or????) blows it up trying to get Thomas and the next episode (assuming there is one ) shows them at the new place. This gives the diehard fans closure on the old place and introduces the new nest (out with the old and in with the new). If it's going to be torn down anyways why not blow it up for the show. I doubt any of the Nesbitts are even living there, it would've been a perfect ending for the original Robin's Nest.
I'm sure Eve is feeling the same way we are at the moment!
RIP Pahonu!
Thanks for the memories.
We are going to miss you!

[RustyPerroP.I.]

That’s a shame . Glad I was able to see it a few months back. It’s in pretty sad shape. Wish it could be restored.

[Steve]

I feel like a close family member was just diagnosed with a terminal disease....I am beyond words..........

[Rembrandt's Girl]

There may be a number of reasons why they'd keep the slabs. Jupiter Island has some unique rules for permitting, and it may be the same here. Keeping the original footprint, possibly with the addition of some new ground level space, may prevent impact fees, some environmental regulations, SETBACK CHALLENGES (most likely factor), and/or infrastructure requirements.

Well, I won't have to go to Hawaii now. Such a shame, but not really surprised.

Thanks Kevster.... you just reminded me that in our city if you keep the foundation/slab and one wall (isn't that crazy?) you can avoid additional permitting and permitting fees.

[Rembrandt's Girl]

Also, wondering about the boat house. I'm guessing that also has to be slated for demolition but maybe it doesn't have to be specifically called out on the permit.

[JungleBird]

This is TERRIBLE!
Can't believe it. I wanted to go to Hawaii but I guess that vacation is cancelled now...
Isn't there anything we can do..? Does anyone have connections to people involved in the process?
Any idea on when that demolition is supposed to happen?

I always wanted to see this place myself... this really is sickening!

[eagle]

I feel like a close family member was just diagnosed with a terminal disease....I am beyond words..........

That is a good way to describe my feelings at learning this news.

Very sad.

Like the other commenter said, I'll no longer have to plan a trip to Hawaii. I had been hoping to go maybe for my 50th, or my 20th wedding anniversary, both in the next couple years.

[308GUY]

I feel like a close family member was just diagnosed with a terminal disease....I am beyond words..........

That is a good way to describe my feelings at learning this news.

Very sad.

Like the other commenter said, I'll no longer have to plan a trip to Hawaii. I had been hoping to go maybe for my 50th, or my 20th wedding anniversary, both in the next couple years.

Shared feelings to this in me.

I've been tentatively planning the trip for some time now. It would be a major undertaking for me, due to personal circumstances, but I was determined to make it happen at some point. (hey...we can all dream..right? ) But now...not so sure I'll ever undertake it...as has been said above...sad.

The tidal pool will still be there, and since one cannot go inside the fence anyway...maybe I'll still do it at some point...time will tell...it always does.

We all know the buildings themselves have been in a sad state of repair for some time. This would help explain why there hasn't been more renovation observed since the sale....if it was being assessed for structural integrity and such. At one point, I believe the boat house was scheduled by itself to be razed, but can't verify it, just something I heard somewhere. So it may be on the slate with the main house and "bath" house. Wonder if this will include the gate house as well? Very sad day.

Maybe WE (the fans) helped bring this about? Perhaps our zeal and "lust" to get there...be there...to see it and experience it's "presence" we created a situation the new owners just didn't want to deal with for the foreseeable future? I mean, Eve got to the point where she stopped being there much at all (at least that's my understanding) so maybe the Nesbitts (or whoever) knowing the tendency, just wanted to remove the temptation. If the thing everybody seeks no longer exists...what are they going to do? When the golds gone, they stop mining. Just some random thoughts. But who here would want to live in paradise (or anywhere for that matter) where you never knew when strangers were going to be peering in from anywhere/everywhere outside trying to get a glimpse of "something"? With camera carrying drones commonplace now, would you ever feel secure in your "privacy" knowing that people want to be where you are and see what you are seeing? Just some random thoughts, as I'm sure the main, and probably only, reason the decision was made to eliminate it and clear the grounds, was strictly engineering and lack of sound structures. We'll always have the dreams and memories. (and DVD's! )

I'm gonna go watch a couple episodes now......

[knight8882]

Nooooooooo! Just as everyone else said, sickened by this news. Well I guess I'm never going to Hawaii. The estate was the only reason I ever wanted to go.

[Kevster]

There may be a number of reasons why they'd keep the slabs. Jupiter Island has some unique rules for permitting, and it may be the same here. Keeping the original footprint, possibly with the addition of some new ground level space, may prevent impact fees, some environmental regulations, SETBACK CHALLENGES (most likely factor), and/or infrastructure requirements.

Well, I won't have to go to Hawaii now. Such a shame, but not really surprised.

Thanks Kevster.... you just reminded me that in our city if you keep the foundation/slab and one wall (isn't that crazy?) you can avoid additional permitting and permitting fees.

You're welcome.

Years ago, I was asked to appraise a house on the north end of Jupiter Island, and I thought that it was a bad request. I thought the living area was a typo.... If I remember right, it was about 1,100 SF. Anything under about 4,500 SF is tiny in this zip code, so it made no sense. Then I saw the picture. It was a basic 1950's ranch on a rather deep lot with 150' of ocean frontage. It made no sense to keep this thing, until...

Until you saw the legal setback line from the ocean. The house was WAY closer to the water than was currently legal.

The house was a full 120' closer to the water than was now legal! If redeveloped more than 50%, they'd have to raze it, plus they'd then be stuck between two modern homes with that quasi-tunnel effect for their view. So, the family kept this "cottage," which was pretty much right on the dune. The beach had eroded a bit in (back then, when I did the assignment) 50 years.

With the Anderson house, I'd say they were REALLY close to the ocean by modern standards, and also to the property line on either side (both the main house and boat house). Also, the house was not oriented right for modern tastes. So, if they use the same slab in some way, they'll likely change the interior arrangement of the rooms to provide better views.

This is the part that'll probably hurt everyone the most... It's a money guy that bought it, so I think you'll soon find that there are several sites or new homes for sale subdividing what once comprised the estate.

Sorry, but that makes sense without even crunching the numbers.

That's progress.

[RustyPerroP.I.]

Since the tidal pool is on the historical register, it will always remain. Ive swam in it and it was worth it. I would not cancel my trip to Oahu based on the house. To be honest it was very hard to see due to the overgrown bushes. The boat house is the only thing you can see well. Maybe it will be kept. I had to use my imagination a bit. So still go, tell everyone what used to be there. Keep it alive in that way

[Rembrandt's Girl]

Even though I knew this was a possibility all along, it hurts more than I anticipated. After I read the article I found myself sobbing as I was telling my hubby about the planned demolition.

I'm sure Marty Nesbitt knew what he was purchasing in terms of both the condition of the house and the situation with us fans. I don't know why it took so long but I'm certain he planned to demolish her before the final papers were signed. I've been occasionally checking permit status since the sale and there is a notation on file that DLNR has to be contacted before any permits are issued. Maybe there was a delay because of historic preservation possibilities. Who knows. The delay actually gave me hope... I thought perhaps he wouldn't raze her and would renovate. So much for that now.

I don't think any of us should cancel future visits. I've been there a few times and peeked through the fence but as you all know you can't really get a good view of the house. Most of my visions & memories of Pahonu are from MPI and other tv shows, Internet photos, and the countless hours & hours I've spent researching Pahonu & Eve's ancestors. But the magic you feel when you're THERE, in the tidal pool, will still be there even if Pahonu isn't. Mr. Nesbitt can't take that away from us.

[Majordomo]

I know it's not likely, but maybe we will see a Robin's Nest reboot, if you will. If the footprint is remaining, then maybe the plan is to create a Pahonu replica that is updated and better! Or maybe even make it so that the the original MPI design (you know how the boat house was always at the back of the house?) is honored...

As an aside, whenever I watch MPI now and they show a scene outside of the boathouse; up on the terrace....I always picture it where it actually resides now thanks to all of the mapping and details on Pahonu's thread. I never grasp the connection that the show established that it was behind the house...

[knight8882]

Since the original slabs and foundations will remain, is there any hope that maybe he will rebuild it just like it was in its glory days? Maybe it was determined that the original structure was just too far gone to restore it properly and decided to take it down and rebuild? Maybe he wanted the interior to have the same layout as the studio sets they used on the show and it couldn't be done with the original structure? It will still be a shame to lose the original, but I'm holding out a glimmer of hope that just maybe they will rebuild a perfect replica, but with the interiors made to be like it was shown in the studio sets. Please Lord, let Marty Nesbitt be as big of a Magnum fan as we are!

[Rembrandt's Girl]

I wondered the same thing, if Mr. Nesbitt is perhaps a true MPI fan and will replicate Pahonu... fingers crossed!

Edit* - remember there's a basement so if the foundation is remaining, I assume so is the basement, so the new structure will have to have the same footprint, right?