The Kona Winds (6.4)
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Re: The Kona Winds (6.4)
.the Kona Winds do more than whip the sea into a frenzy, they stir the blood and tear at the emotions, thrusting even temperate men into destinies they may later regret."
JeeZeus! What a dumb thing ...a throwaway myth / plot device / excuse for Magnum to do something he usually doesn't in order to have a different story .obvious fabrication as we never hear about kona winds and its purported strange effect in any other ep, even though tradewinds and kona winds run alternately here, more so trade winds but when konas blow, we dont all of us suddenly turn into werewolves . Keerice, i don't believe that junk.
JeeZeus! What a dumb thing ...a throwaway myth / plot device / excuse for Magnum to do something he usually doesn't in order to have a different story .obvious fabrication as we never hear about kona winds and its purported strange effect in any other ep, even though tradewinds and kona winds run alternately here, more so trade winds but when konas blow, we dont all of us suddenly turn into werewolves . Keerice, i don't believe that junk.
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Re: The Kona Winds (6.4)
I'm going to have to watch the episode again listen for Larry price and look for da haka and. Look for the scene shot at the HIC. We never called it the neil blasedelll centrr. is always been referred to as the H.i.c. all these years .
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Since you seem to know all about the real Hawaii, can you tell me if Kahunas' eyes really flash red?Braddah Kimo wrote:.the Kona Winds do more than whip the sea into a frenzy, they stir the blood and tear at the emotions, thrusting even temperate men into destinies they may later regret."
JeeZeus! What a dumb thing ...a throwaway myth / plot device / excuse for Magnum to do something he usually doesn't in order to have a different story .obvious fabrication as we never hear about kona winds and its purported strange effect in any other ep, even though tradewinds and kona winds run alternately here, more so trade winds but when konas blow, we dont all of us suddenly turn into werewolves . Keerice, i don't believe that junk.
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Please do not mock me.
(I can see you sniggering in the background while writing that)
(I can see you sniggering in the background while writing that)
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(and stop with the "seem": after kenji the "gardner" (whatever that could be) this site is overloaded topheavy with that word overused. Thank you.)
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I'm sorry if I seem to be mocking but I'm not...I really want to know.
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oookay.
Contrary to popular belief that this is a fairly realistic Tv program, it is replete with fabrications unheard of in real life. Especially real life here in Hawai'i.
Kahuna eyes do not flash anything. Unless the particular individual has something different going on, or he/she makes it happen. That would be uncommon. Although for many kupuna, the age, wisdom, experience, spirituality shines through in their eyes and is quite noticeable, and moreso would it be with kahuna. Also kahuna are not out in the open parading about at beach clubs saying I am a Kahuna.. I am not saying Manu Tupou did this but really, you would not know a kahuna if he bumped into you. Unless you kama'aina, maybe. Kahuna are discrete, private, basically egoless souls. A concept wholly foreign to the western mind. In fact most all Polynesian concepts cannot be grasped by the western mindset. It is a time proven thing. That is one problem with Hawai'i based TV shows having exposure across the nation. Too many myths, misconceptions of our islands and culture are disseminated too freely. Then, when its time to learn the truth, many are forced to unlearn falsities and fallacies. And that doesn't go down to well.
Besides. Kahuna are found in all walks of life. Kahuna is/was a master of a particular craft. They are deeply respected for their dedication to their milieu and the word and concept is sacred and to see such a plethora of "big Kahuna" this and Big Kahuna that ... the word being overly commercialized, makes some of us cringe. We can thank the Gidget movies for the gestation of that abomination, and the base American cultural appropriation habit of its continuation through the decades.
No, there are no flashing eyes. Nor do we have kona winds transforming a man to a maniac or stirring the seas into a frenzy. Maybe the Kona storms do that to the waters. Any storm would.
Neither would we have any instances of British twits yelling at people offshore with the use of a bullhorn! Telling them to go away. No, we tell THEM to go away. Nor do we have local private investigators running about shooting at all and sundry while speeding around town dangerously, in the most ostentatious Italian import available, some guy with NO connections to da braddahs, or any rapport for that matter, with locals, all the while acting like a fresh off da boat haole with no sense of the islands or its culture or any grasp at all of its lingo!
Sorry. More than ya asked for. But take most everything Hollywood creates about our culture with a big dose of seasalt...
Contrary to popular belief that this is a fairly realistic Tv program, it is replete with fabrications unheard of in real life. Especially real life here in Hawai'i.
Kahuna eyes do not flash anything. Unless the particular individual has something different going on, or he/she makes it happen. That would be uncommon. Although for many kupuna, the age, wisdom, experience, spirituality shines through in their eyes and is quite noticeable, and moreso would it be with kahuna. Also kahuna are not out in the open parading about at beach clubs saying I am a Kahuna.. I am not saying Manu Tupou did this but really, you would not know a kahuna if he bumped into you. Unless you kama'aina, maybe. Kahuna are discrete, private, basically egoless souls. A concept wholly foreign to the western mind. In fact most all Polynesian concepts cannot be grasped by the western mindset. It is a time proven thing. That is one problem with Hawai'i based TV shows having exposure across the nation. Too many myths, misconceptions of our islands and culture are disseminated too freely. Then, when its time to learn the truth, many are forced to unlearn falsities and fallacies. And that doesn't go down to well.
Besides. Kahuna are found in all walks of life. Kahuna is/was a master of a particular craft. They are deeply respected for their dedication to their milieu and the word and concept is sacred and to see such a plethora of "big Kahuna" this and Big Kahuna that ... the word being overly commercialized, makes some of us cringe. We can thank the Gidget movies for the gestation of that abomination, and the base American cultural appropriation habit of its continuation through the decades.
No, there are no flashing eyes. Nor do we have kona winds transforming a man to a maniac or stirring the seas into a frenzy. Maybe the Kona storms do that to the waters. Any storm would.
Neither would we have any instances of British twits yelling at people offshore with the use of a bullhorn! Telling them to go away. No, we tell THEM to go away. Nor do we have local private investigators running about shooting at all and sundry while speeding around town dangerously, in the most ostentatious Italian import available, some guy with NO connections to da braddahs, or any rapport for that matter, with locals, all the while acting like a fresh off da boat haole with no sense of the islands or its culture or any grasp at all of its lingo!
Sorry. More than ya asked for. But take most everything Hollywood creates about our culture with a big dose of seasalt...
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Thank you for your response. To paraphrase; Magnum P.I. is a fictional depiction of non-Hawaiians living on Oahu who occasionally interact (rudely) with native Hawaiians in the 1980s.
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hahahaaa. good un.
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Haha, I cracked up when I read this.Stelth wrote:Thank you for your response. To paraphrase; Magnum P.I. is a fictional depiction of non-Hawaiians living on Oahu who occasionally interact (rudely) with native Hawaiians in the 1980s.
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Did you post a screencap of this before? Or am I losing my mind? I could have sworn I saw a screencap....Doc Fred wrote:I don't recall which episode we were discussing when the topic turned to a hot gal (Lady X) who showed up in many of the episodes without credits, someone who always seemed to be there to attract attention from Magnum... a great-looking brunette.. I think she was in this one, too, but no one mentioned noting here. She was Big Ed Kanakoa's girl at the KKC during Rick's party... I think. I don't know how to get screen shots, but it was at around the 35:00 mark, give or take.
In any event, I've captured it myself. Good eye there Fred! I'd say it's her. Lady X strikes again!


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Re: The Kona Winds (6.4)
I thought this was a very good episode. I am a big fan of film noir and I think it's a shame that Magnum PI didn't have more of these types of episodes. It was nice to see a "straight" homage instead of just another parody.
I also think Cynthia Sikes looked great and did a very good job playing the femme fatale.

I also have zero problem with Magnum being seduced in this episode. When you have an episode centered around a femme fatale, the protagonist being seduced just goes with the territory. And as a noir fan I'm also willing to buy the Kona Winds explanation. It's the Hawaiian version of the classic film noir trope "It was hot in the city. Too hot." "Crazy from the heat" in other words. And they did a good job of reminding the audience that everyone was acting slightly out of character: TC philosophizing, Rick partying like it's 1999, and Higgins planning like it's 1899.
If you ever get caught cheating on your wife, I don't think the "It was the Kona Winds, baby, I swear!" defense will likely keep you out of divorce court.
I also think Cynthia Sikes looked great and did a very good job playing the femme fatale.

I also have zero problem with Magnum being seduced in this episode. When you have an episode centered around a femme fatale, the protagonist being seduced just goes with the territory. And as a noir fan I'm also willing to buy the Kona Winds explanation. It's the Hawaiian version of the classic film noir trope "It was hot in the city. Too hot." "Crazy from the heat" in other words. And they did a good job of reminding the audience that everyone was acting slightly out of character: TC philosophizing, Rick partying like it's 1999, and Higgins planning like it's 1899.
If you ever get caught cheating on your wife, I don't think the "It was the Kona Winds, baby, I swear!" defense will likely keep you out of divorce court.
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Sam Henderson (Frank Converse) has a good, noirish line in this episode:
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I wasn't a huge fan of this episode. It wasn't especially bad, but it had some flaws I didn't enjoy. Like many of you, I didn't agree with Magnum so quickly bedding another man's wife knowing she was married. Blaming the weather was a weak way of trying to defend that it wasn't his fault. I thought that it was also strange that nobody except Higgins and the secretary seemed overly concerned about a major storm approaching. Magnum was out working on this case, Rick was throwing a huge party, TC was flying supplies to the other islands, Sam was just going on about his buisness, etc. Magnum didn't seem to care that the estate was at risk of taking major damage and just left all of the preparations to Higgins. Another thing that bothered me was that Magnum got referred to Mrs. Henderson as "the best" as far as private investigators goes, but her plan called for a "second rate p.i." to get caught up in the fight with her husband. The final part with the dramatic double crosses was great writing.