The Guest House

[Hawaii84]

Looks like the stairs go from no carpet to carpet to darker carpet.

[Majordomo]

Are those two different couches or is it just the lighting? The patterns seem different to me.

[steveadl]

That's a pretty rare shot of the back wall. Is that the episode where Rick is cooking chilli in TM's place?

[RamblerReb]

I believe I know why the dogleg "appeared." That step appears to have been enlarged, necessitating the dogleg. I can only imagine that the reason was that that step was where Higgins frequently stopped to berate Magnum on his awful sax playing, some missing piece of Robin's property, his latest sordid, tawdry client showing up at the gate, etc., and the step was enlarged to accommodate John Hillerman standing there to deliver a bombastic monologue.

In the earlier picture with "Mad Buck" on the phone, the step which carries on to form the first step of the descent from the kitchen is the same depth as the rest. Later on, it is considerably deeper front-to-back than the other steps, hence the dogleg.

[shawnembrey]

With the quality of general contractors that we have these days, I'm sure that the current owner could have someone put an addition on the boat house and build the inside to match the set exactly. That is if she were a fan of the show. If I were the owner of that estate, I would be wearing my short shorts and driving a 308 all over the place. Hell...I am 6'4", thin with dark hair and a hairy chest. Just give me a baseball cap and you would look twice.

[erock308]

Welcome to the forum Shawn

[eeyore]

There were changes in the bathroom. at one point the sink finally appeared directly opposite the door. In earlier shows it was a blank wail, maybe just a towel rack there.l. There is a tub behind the shower. The only time I recall seeing it was in Mad Buck Gibson when he is sitting in the tub shooting holes in the wall.

[ENSHealy]

There were changes in the bathroom. at one point the sink finally appeared directly opposite the door. In earlier shows it was a blank wail, maybe just a towel rack there.l. There is a tub behind the shower. The only time I recall seeing it was in Mad Buck Gibson when he is sitting in the tub shooting holes in the wall.

You can't see the tub in the following picture (from "One More Summer") but it's clear from the sight line to the sink that it's there, or at least there is room for it to be there. I think you can just see the edge of the tub and the shadow thrown by it.


From this photo:

and the layout of the bedroom, I had always assumed that the bathroom stretched out to the left of the shower, along the full width of the bedroom. However, that did not line up with Thomas' comment in Mad Buck Gibson that Buck's shots fired in the tub could have gone through the wall and hit him. So I guess the bathroom must run as shown in the first picture above, straight back from the door.

However, unless there's a lot of bathroom space that we can't see to the left of the door, that leaves a gap in the floor plan, from the left bathroom wall over to where the fireplace/closet wall is. In other words, there doesn't appear to be anything directly behind Thomas' dresser.

Others have noted in this thread that the fantasy floor plan folks fixed this by just expanding the bathroom into that space.

I'll keep an eye out for bathroom glimpses as I go through the episodes and maybe someday start a thread just on the bathroom!

[J.J. Walters]

Yeah, the set decorators had some fun with the bathroom. It definitely changed several times over the course of the show's run.

[308GUY]

"My sister LOVE little room that make rain..."

[KENJI]

For anyone who's interested......here is the Mad Buck Gibson episode that shows the bathroom and the straight stairs Pahonu had spotted and commented earlier on in this thread.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ppgl4

If you go to around the 17:38 and 33:33 marks in this episode you can see the guesthouse bathroom in more detail (at least one version of it) and of course, Buck's masterpiece!

If you go to around the 43:30 mark you can see the stairs going up are straight in this episode. If you look at some other episodes you will spot a small flat or dog leg section where the kitchen floor meets the stairs (just a few steps up from where the couch is located). You really spot it when you look at the trim work/skirt board going up the stairs.

[erock308]

Anyone know of a 3D model or floorplan other than the Fantasy Floorplan?

Or at least a 3D architect program that can be used to make one up?

Would make an ideal build for a retirement cottage

[64-2]

Hi Pahonu.

Regarding the guesthouse set, it's actually smaller than it appears on screen.

Hi Team - new to the forum...

But as many of you; a Gen-X, long-time fan, and fascinated by the mysteries of the Eve Anderson Estate and - in particular - the Guest House / Boat House

I find it validating that there are so many others intrigued by the comparison / contrast of the actual structure versus the interior dimensions and layout...

And so many that would love to see a real-life, realized combination of the two.


While much effort, words, and time have been invested in delineating how the set could simply not fit inside the original structure, I take as (semi) opposed perspective:

Understanding Hollywood - and film-making techniques, set design, and so many other factors - I feel it is pretty darn impressive how reasonably close the set is to the real building.

By contrast, just research the Brady house...


The quoted comment...


I'm certain all here know / feel the same - illusions...

Not certain if both the front (ocean-facing) and back (mountain-facing) walls are ever seen in the same shot in the show.

Seeing them in the behind-the-scenes Romer set shot, we see how narrow it is.

Though at the same time (as Pahuno here has cited) it is much deeper that the actual building would allow...

So is it really NARROW, as the set seems "in real life" more narrow that we seen on screen?

Or is it really DEEP, as it is much deeper than the actual building could accommodate?



Illusions...

Fun illusions...

[Pahonu]

Hi Pahonu.

Regarding the guesthouse set, it's actually smaller than it appears on screen.

Hi Team - new to the forum...

But as many of you; a Gen-X, long-time fan, and fascinated by the mysteries of the Eve Anderson Estate and - in particular - the Guest House / Boat House

I find it validating that there are so many others intrigued by the comparison / contrast of the actual structure versus the interior dimensions and layout...

And so many that would love to see a real-life, realized combination of the two.


While much effort, words, and time have been invested in delineating how the set could simply not fit inside the original structure, I take as (semi) opposed perspective:

Understanding Hollywood - and film-making techniques, set design, and so many other factors - I feel it is pretty darn impressive how reasonably close the set is to the real building.

By contrast, just research the Brady house...


The quoted comment...


I'm certain all here know / feel the same - illusions...

Not certain if both the front (ocean-facing) and back (mountain-facing) walls are ever seen in the same shot in the show.

Seeing them in the behind-the-scenes Romer set shot, we see how narrow it is.

Though at the same time (as Pahuno here has cited) it is much deeper that the actual building would allow...

So is it really NARROW, as the set seems "in real life" more narrow that we seen on screen?

Or is it really DEEP, as it is much deeper than the actual building could accommodate?



Illusions...

Fun illusions...

Hey 64-2,

It is fun to compare the reality of the estate to “Hollywood magic”. I have created both AutoCAD floor plans of the Pahonu boathouse and the guest house set. I have also created a SketchUp model of the Pahonu boathouse. I’m very familiar with the structures based on tax records, historical documents, and the photos from the sale of the estate. The easiest way for me to describe the relationship between the actual boathouse and the guest house set is this:

The boathouse first floor is about 24x30 feet and is, in reality, simply a large garage-like space for water sports equipment (hence the name). This is why it has the two large doors facing the beach, to take that equipment easily to the water. Because the property slopes down to the sand, part of the first level is below grade on the side away from the water.

The second floor with the lanai is about 24 feet square, slightly smaller, as there is a shed roof extension on the ocean side. The part that confuses people the most is that the actual boathouse second floor is mostly the lanai, almost 2/3 of the total. I have added a photo to demonstrate. The enclosed space is in reality a room of about 10x14 feet and a bathroom on the side facing the Shriners property. The lanai is about 14x22 feet. This is why the guesthouse set doesn’t come close to being able to fit in the actual boathouse.

https://ibb.co/3d57rwY

The crude red lines in this photo show the two levels, and the relationship between the size of the lanai, the upper right two boxes, and the enclosed space, the upper left box. The three boxes below, plus the fourth to the right under the shed roof, make up the storage space. The part of the storage space to the left is partially below grade, hence the windows near the grade. The part on the right under the shed roof opens to grade with the two large doors leading down a ramp to the sand.

Hope this helps!

[Luther's nephew Dobie]

Hi Pahonu.

Regarding the guesthouse set, it's actually smaller than it appears on screen.

Hi Team - new to the forum...

But as many of you; a Gen-X, long-time fan, and fascinated by the mysteries of the Eve Anderson Estate and - in particular - the Guest House / Boat House

I find it validating that there are so many others intrigued by the comparison / contrast of the actual structure versus the interior dimensions and layout...

And so many that would love to see a real-life, realized combination of the two.


While much effort, words, and time have been invested in delineating how the set could simply not fit inside the original structure, I take as (semi) opposed perspective:

Understanding Hollywood - and film-making techniques, set design, and so many other factors - I feel it is pretty darn impressive how reasonably close the set is to the real building.

By contrast, just research the Brady house...


The quoted comment...


I'm certain all here know / feel the same - illusions...

Not certain if both the front (ocean-facing) and back (mountain-facing) walls are ever seen in the same shot in the show.

Seeing them in the behind-the-scenes Romer set shot, we see how narrow it is.

Though at the same time (as Pahuno here has cited) it is much deeper that the actual building would allow...

So is it really NARROW, as the set seems "in real life" more narrow that we seen on screen?

Or is it really DEEP, as it is much deeper than the actual building could accommodate?



Illusions...

Fun illusions...

Hey 64-2,

It is fun to compare the reality of the estate to “Hollywood magic”. I have created both AutoCAD floor plans of the Pahonu boathouse and the guest house set. I have also created a SketchUp model of the Pahonu boathouse. I’m very familiar with the structures based on tax records, historical documents, and the photos from the sale of the estate. The easiest way for me to describe the relationship between the actual boathouse and the guest house set is this:

The boathouse first floor is about 24x30 feet and is, in reality, simply a large garage-like space for water sports equipment (hence the name). This is why it has the two large doors facing the beach, to take that equipment easily to the water. Because the property slopes down to the sand, part of the first level is below grade on the side away from the water.

The second floor with the lanai is about 24 feet square, slightly smaller, as there is a shed roof extension on the ocean side. The part that confuses people the most is that the actual boathouse second floor is mostly the lanai, almost 2/3 of the total. I have added a photo to demonstrate. The enclosed space is in reality a room of about 10x14 feet and a bathroom on the side facing the Shriners property. The lanai is about 14x22 feet. This is why the guesthouse set doesn’t come close to being able to fit in the actual boathouse.

https://ibb.co/3d57rwY

The crude red lines in this photo show the two levels, and the relationship between the size of the lanai, the upper right two boxes, and the enclosed space, the upper left box. The three boxes below, plus the fourth to the right under the shed roof, make up the storage space. The part of the storage space to the left is partially below grade, hence the windows near the grade. The part on the right under the shed roof opens to grade with the two large doors leading down a ramp to the sand.

Hope this helps!

64-2 and Pahonu,
Thanks for this, I find it very interesting.
By the way, on any of the threads here at MM, I don't recall seeing a photo of the new house, or even a shot from seaside. I believe it was stated the only thing left from the original
was the guest house. Not even a tree or a wall?