Don't Say Goodbye (1.15)

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#61 Post by Magnum T. »

Mrs. Agatha Kimball, a blind/disabled high-society lady is blackmailed by a Frank LaRue, who claims to know something about Amy, the lady's niece.
Being Magnum a friend to both of the women (and having been more than a friend to Amy) he is requested by Mrs. Kimball to give the money to the blackmailer and keep the information to himself only.
Magnum meets the man but somebody has to be very interested in keeping LaRue's mouth shut since he is shot dead before Magnum's eyes.
After some investigations the p.i. realizes that even a sweet and delicate girl like Amy can have something to hide.

Well, everybody seem to like this episode a lot.
To me it is a decent one, not of my favourites.
The twist with Amy is good but is pretty obvious that Danson is not a guy you can trust.
There is a little overacting here and there, especially from Mrs. MacCambridge.
As usual one thing that never fails is the Magnum-Higgins interaction.
And I like the final joke with Rick dating Fat Jack's other sister.

Plus:
- the look on Higgins' face when Rick invites him to have some... food.
- the scene where Higgins is forced to admit Magnum's phone was not working because the lads had chewed the wire.
Minus:
- I am not a big fan of Andrea Marcovicci.
- The TM and Amy discussing/kissing scene is predictable and looks phony to me.
- The ending scene is a little too "melodramatic" for my taste.
Best line:
T.C.: Scuddily Wugglies! Man, where did you get this from? You didn't do nothing illegal did you?

Notes:
- team ring on the left hand.
- TM wears a blue hawaiian shirt I don't remember to have seen before.
- again, we have same actors performing different roles in different episodes: Shirley Rogers will return in "Three minus two" (2.22) as the iconic "snorkeling girl", a scene which will end up in the opening credits sequence. She was already in "All roads lead to Floyd" (1.13); Andrea Marcovicci will be back again in "The Sixth Position" (2.11) as ballet dancer Kendall Chase; Wallace Landford (Fat Jack) will be a bartender in "Mad Buck Gibson" (2.9), and the notorious Artie Keanu in "Luther Gillis: File 521" (4.2) and "The Return of Luther Gillis" (4.16). Jim Reynolds (LaRue) will be back in "Past Tense" (3.5).
- Ted Danson guest stars in this episode. He will be one of the three leading actors (with Selleck and Steve Guttenberg) in the romantic comedy "Three men and a baby" and its sequel "Three men and a little lady".
- The ending credits theme is an edited (longer) version, abruptly interrupted by the Universal logo.
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#62 Post by Visiting Stewardess »

I finally got round to continue watching Magnum. After a 5-week-stay in the UK (where I forgot to take a couple of DVDs) and running a marathon last Sunday I finally have been able to free my head again and watch Magnum P.I.

This episode was quite good but sort of predictable. When Agatha said the thing about Amy having it in her blood to play the piano, Amy answered in a funny way, that made it clear to me she wasn't who she was supposed to be. And Ted Danson's character was suspicious from the first second....

The final scene with the lads having chewed through the telephone cable was really good.
I was also glad to see that TC finally got some money from Thomas (well, he didn't *get* it, he took it) but it would have been even funnier if he'd given Thomas 3 or 4 greenbacks and kept the rest.

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#63 Post by Braddah Kimo »

One of my fave eps, as it's filmed in Nu'uanu.
Andrea Marcovicci i met a while ago. Years back, drove her around a little and walked her to a recital of hers. A concert event. ted danson was good in this. Didn't like him in cheers but most everything else, yea. Thomas doesn't wear a hawaiian shirt. It is known as an "aloha shirt". Boy they sure did mess up that house with the redevelopment. Sucked all the soul out of it.

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#64 Post by Braddah Kimo »

So. magnum's chasing the dark Blue mercedes away from hanauma bay. (A redundancy, since hana uma means curved bay (bay that is curved) and he looses the guy. and sez "after I passed the truck I lost him, he could have gone any of four ways." Nope. On one way. On Kal hiway towards sandy beach. Magnum pops over to Chinatown to visit a 24 hour diner labelled (by the prop department) Fat jack's and upon the appearance of the cops, jack spears his kaukau with his chopsticks and leaves them stuck there. 'A'ole! This is NEVER done here in Hawai'i.

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#65 Post by Sisophous »

J.J. Walters wrote:So, I was checking out some IMDB credits recently and I came across this guy, Jim Reynolds (Frank LaRue). The guy is apparently a porn "star" who goes by the stage name "R.J. Reynolds"!
Wow!!! I know R.J. Reynolds from classic adult films, but never recognized him in this episode. That is a shocker, how many adult film stars cross over into mainstream films or television series. I wonder how he pulled this off.

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#66 Post by Sisophous »

I thought this episode was decent. I really have a dislike for the roles Ted Danson plays. As Stewart Crane on this episode you can see from the outset he is a sleazeball. He turns out to be the one trying to commit murder and I suspected it was him when all these accidents started to happen.

A couple of observations: The elderly, blind woman takes a fall into the pool after her wheelchair brake accidentally disengages. So, we see the woman fall into the pool and struggle to get out but she appears to be drowning. The scene cuts and minutes later she is all fine and well when Magnum comes to visit her. I thought she had died.

About this disc, from episode 1, featuring the titles: Adelaide, Don't Say Goodbye and The Black Orchid, the picture quality is superior to any other disc I have viewed. I rent this series from Netflix and apparently they make copies of all the episodes, not using the original discs. This disc was not a blank surface, it had an image on the top from the series. I viewed this with an HDMI cable hookup to a 1080 TV and it upconverted to high definition, a blue ray disc could not have been sharper.

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#67 Post by J.J. Walters »

Sisophous wrote:Wow!!! I know R.J. Reynolds from classic adult films, but never recognized him in this episode. That is a shocker, how many adult film stars cross over into mainstream films or television series. I wonder how he pulled this off.
Quid pro quo, perhaps? ;)

No really, I have no idea. He only has one line. But he must have done something right because he shows up again in "Past Tense".
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#68 Post by Sisophous »

J.J. Walters wrote:
Sisophous wrote:Wow!!! I know R.J. Reynolds from classic adult films, but never recognized him in this episode. That is a shocker, how many adult film stars cross over into mainstream films or television series. I wonder how he pulled this off.
Quid pro quo, perhaps? ;)

No really, I have no idea. He only has one line. But he must have done something right because he shows up again in "Past Tense".
Too bad I returned the disc because after finding out about this I am dying to go back to see it. Maybe I will rent the disc again from Netflix. Only one line from R.J. Reynolds? Sounds like he has a friend who pulled some strings for him, maybe returning a favor to Reynolds. If you stop and think about it, virtually anyone could be put into the cast, even on a very limited role. I see seasoned stars on Magnum P.I. coming across as awful in the acting arena from time to time. I think TC is about the weakest link of the stars on Magnum PI but he is not supposed to be that sophisticated a character to begin with. And yes, Rick is a full fledged idiot who runs his own business.

In actuality, the whole cast of Magnum P.I. are a bunch of goofballs, who at times manage to accomplish miracles with the help of one another. I think that and the fantasy of living on Hawaii is what makes this series work.

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#69 Post by Styles Bitchley »

Sisophous wrote:In actuality, the whole cast of Magnum P.I. are a bunch of goofballs, who at times manage to accomplish miracles with the help of one another. I think that and the fantasy of living on Hawaii is what makes this series work.
I don't think I'd say goofballs. They know how to be serious when it's called for. They also know when to be slackers. :wink:
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#70 Post by Sisophous »

I watched this episode again last night and the final scene with Stewart Crane played by Ted Danson was unrealistic to say the least. The sleezeball Stewart Crane pulls out a Giant Hook and is about to murder Magnum on the back of the boat. Magnum and the girl jump off the back of the boat into the water with the keys to the boat. Soon after Stewart ends up in the water and Magnum yells out to alert Stewart of the boat that was backing up in his direction.

Who would show such consideration and concern for someone after they seconds earlier tried to murder you with a Giant Fish Hook?????

Give me a break.

They may as well have had Magnum dive into the water and pull Stewart Crane out of the way of the propellers.

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#71 Post by Sisophous »

Never knew this until just now but you can watch many of these episodes on the IMDb. The only downside is there are commercials and you can't fast forward or avoid them.

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#72 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

A few issues with this episode:

1) The plot is flimsy. Are we supposed to believe that an adult woman posed as someone elses grand-daugher assuming a false identity just because she liked the letters she wrote?

2) Mercedes McCambridge: Her whiny voice is annoying, as is her Stevie Wonder routine. On top of thsat she's not very believable as "the kindest blind old lady I know", in Magnum's words because, let's face it, her face is not very kind. When you see a sweet old lady there is sweetness in her eyes. Mercedes McCambridge, on the other hand, I'm sorry to say, looks like a harpy. There is a certain harshness and nastiness about her features. She tries to make up for it with the whiny voice but in only makes it worse. On top of that, on occasions she puts on some kind of fake English accent.

3) Why didn't Magnum try to read the plates of the Mercedes?

4) The whole scene where Agatha falls in the swimming pool is very poorly edited. It looks shoehorned into the flow of the narative.

5) When Magnum jumps of the yacht and shouts "Call the police!" we see a cop running towards the harbor literaly a few seconds later. Now that's what I call a safe town!

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#73 Post by J.J. Walters »

Croix de Lorraine, I agree with you on all points except for #2. Whiny voice? Harpy? Nastiness? My god man, this is Mercedes McCambridge you're talking about! All the King's Men, Giant, Johnny Guitar, Written on the Wind, Suddenly, Last Summer, The Exorcist! Orson Welles called her "the world's greatest living radio actress", and you're dissing her voice?

That's it! You're banned! ...

I'm just kidding, of course. ;)
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#74 Post by Styles Bitchley »

Jay-Firestorm wrote:* Just an observation, but what were those tops that Magnum and T.C. were wearing in the helicopter? They looked like life reserves. They weren’t seen in any other episode.
I was watching this the other night and noticed the life jackets - thought I'd check to see if anyone posted about them. It looks pretty weird. I'm wondering if there's an actual aviation regulation that requires passengers in choppers going from island to island to wear life jackets (maybe past a certain mile limit? Just guessing that maybe they wore them for authenticity. In the end though, if Mag doesn't even wear a seatbelt for a high speed chase, he ain't gonna wear a life preserver for island hopping.

Another funny thing was the Fat Jack character. Made me think of the "Where are you going Mr. Fat Jack" scene from Splash. LMFAO (as the kids say!)
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#75 Post by marlboro »

I'm a little confused about this one. From what I can figure out a woman named Carol Foster begins to impersonate her drug addicted roommate Amy Crane just after Amy was contacted (via Magnum) by her long lost grand mother who lives in Hawaii. Both Amy and Carol were living in Texas at the time.


Amy was involved with a man named La Rue. Whether they met in Texas or in Hawaii, I don't know.

At some point both Carol and Amy end up in Hawaii with La Rue.

Amy is killed in a swimming accident in Hawaii.

Carol pretends to be Amy and moves in with her "grandmother."


What I don't understand is, how did both women end up in Hawaii? I assume they went there to meet the real Amy's grandmother - so how was Carol able to pull off the switch and fool Magnum?

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