Trip to Hawaii

[Styles Bitchley]

The box structure near the boathouse would have been on dry sand at low tide levels and the beach much wider. I believe there’s an image from early H5-O that shows the box at least partly on dry sand. Also, the tidal pool stone walls have needs to be raised more than once. They were actually rebuilt at one point having been neglected and in ruin. They are not the same walls from when the alii kept turtles in them for meat.

So were the walls further out? Or was the water just very shallow within the walls (in the 30s, for example)? It seems to be a remarkable effort to go to (building the wall), so I imagined it there for at least hundreds of years. I really don't know much about the history of the enclosure other than the Hawaiians using it for turtles.

[rcurreyjr]

Here is a reminder of how it looked in 2015.
https://www.dropbox.com/home/Photos/Pahonu

[Pahonu]

The box structure near the boathouse would have been on dry sand at low tide levels and the beach much wider. I believe there’s an image from early H5-O that shows the box at least partly on dry sand. Also, the tidal pool stone walls have needs to be raised more than once. They were actually rebuilt at one point having been neglected and in ruin. They are not the same walls from when the alii kept turtles in them for meat.

So were the walls further out? Or was the water just very shallow within the walls (in the 30s, for example)? It seems to be a remarkable effort to go to (building the wall), so I imagined it there for at least hundreds of years. I really don't know much about the history of the enclosure other than the Hawaiians using it for turtles.

I don’t know precisely where the first walls the alii built were, but there were several around Oahu. I remember years ago reading, of all things, a Hawaii high school student’s project about these enclosures. They included pictures and explained how several were rebuilt in various locations. I recall that they were not archeologically accurate reconstructions, but rather attempts to recreate them as a cultural landmark. I would love to know more about Pahonu specifically but it wasn’t part of the material that I read. It also had information about the reconstruction of heiaus, which were religious structures on land. I don’t remember much else. This was maybe 20 years ago and I found it online!

The map that shows the changing high tide lines at Pahonu is on this forum somewhere. I remember it showed different color lines along the beach representing different measurements in various years. Do you remember an early thread about the diminishing sand at the estate? I remember several people were convinced that Eve Anderson had paid to remove the sand so people would stop bothering her. I tried so hard to convince them that the sea walls and tidal change, along with a big storm or two can cause rapid change to beaches… but to no avail. I’ve seen it along the coast where I live in just a few weeks, huge amounts of sand can move. Now we better understand what years of rising tides and sea walls lead to.

[ConchRepublican]

Question - I have a friend who has an 8 person trip planned for Hawaii in a week, coming from the East Coast. What were things really like? Were there a alot of closures and restrictions or is it being overblown in the news?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[Pahonu]

Question - I have a friend who has an 8 person trip planned for Hawaii in a week, coming from the East Coast. What were things really like? Were there a alot of closures and restrictions or is it being overblown in the news?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks!

A friend of mine just got back from the islands a few days ago. She was visiting family though, so didn’t experience many of these things directly. Her family there had lots of thoughts about things however. She told me there were lots of people frustrated with long waits at restaurants and poor service in hotels because they are understaffed. Several rental car companies had zero cars available so people without reservations were out of luck. The Governor on Monday just requested visitors to stay away for the next few months as their health care system is at capacity and they can’t easily move sick individuals to different locations as other states do.

Make of this what you will, but in our conversation it seems like lots of visitors and locals are very frustrated because the typical standards of hospitality aren’t possible currently and there has been a crush of visitors who had put off traveling until now.

[Jelly Doughnut]

Aloha all. My wife and I have just returned from our first trip ever to Hawaii.

We are in our early 50's so we wanted to do everything possible in a 9 day, 8 night trip. I would say we did. We took the Magnum helicopters tour (thrilling breathtaking frightening, etc), We hiked Diamond Head. We hiked Laikani pillbox. We hiked Maakapu Lighthouse. We hiked Manoa Falls. We snorkeled on the Kaneohe Sandbar with sea turtles. We went to the Pali lookout. We drove to the Round Top lookout. We went to the National Cemetery and were in awe with the monument. We ran ATV's along all of Kualoa Ranch. We spent the afternoon at the Polynesian Center. We bathed in Waikiki. We went to Pearl Harbor Arizona Memorial Center. We toured downtown, the Aloha Tower, the Iolani Palace, the King Kamehameha statue. We saw Chinatown. We visited the Byodo temple.

And yet despite all of those things that we did, NOTHING will ever top the precious minutes I got to spend in Waimanlo, when I snorkeled from the Kainoa beach park into Pahonu all alone and sat on the pillbox all by myself. It was unlike any other moment in life.

Would have stayed longer, but I knew the wife was worried waiting for me and I didn't want to keep her waiting forever. Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.

[308GUY]

Aloha all. My wife and I have just returned from our first trip ever to Hawaii.

We are in our early 50's so we wanted to do everything possible in a 9 day, 8 night trip. I would say we did. We took the Magnum helicopters tour (thrilling breathtaking frightening, etc), We hiked Diamond Head. We hiked Laikani pillbox. We hiked Maakapu Lighthouse. We hiked Manoa Falls. We snorkeled on the Kaneohe Sandbar with sea turtles. We went to the Pali lookout. We drove to the Round Top lookout. We went to the National Cemetery and were in awe with the monument. We ran ATV's along all of Kualoa Ranch. We spent the afternoon at the Polynesian Center. We bathed in Waikiki. We went to Pearl Harbor Arizona Memorial Center. We toured downtown, the Aloha Tower, the Iolani Palace, the King Kamehameha statue. We saw Chinatown. We visited the Byodo temple.

And yet despite all of those things that we did, NOTHING will ever top the precious minutes I got to spend in Waimanlo, when I snorkeled from the Kainoa beach park into Pahonu all alone and sat on the pillbox all by myself. It was unlike any other moment in life.

Would have stayed longer, but I knew the wife was worried waiting for me and I didn't want to keep her waiting forever. Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts.

Congrats.....very happy for you two....doing what you are actually supposed to be able to do in this life....enjoying it!

This is probably the best post I've seen anywhere on any forum for a very long time.

Hats off to you....and much gratitude to you for bolstering my belief that it's still possible to make a dream reality with everything that's going on in the world today.

Super post!

[Jelly Doughnut]

Hi all,

I'm just now going through pictures and I have some amazing ones I would like to share. Spoiler: they may include 'team ring' and 'black orchid' shirts and convertible cars... haha.

Please can someone explain how I can share pictures here. Seems we cannot upload directly must be linked??

thanks

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Hi all,

I'm just now going through pictures and I have some amazing ones I would like to share. Spoiler: they may include 'team ring' and 'black orchid' shirts and convertible cars... haha.

Please can someone explain how I can share pictures here. Seems we cannot upload directly must be linked??

thanks

Hi Jelly, yes that's correct. Unfortunately you can't upload pics directly from your PC. I know, it sucks. Gotta link them through some upload website.

[Styles Bitchley]

Hi all,

I'm just now going through pictures and I have some amazing ones I would like to share. Spoiler: they may include 'team ring' and 'black orchid' shirts and convertible cars... haha.

Please can someone explain how I can share pictures here. Seems we cannot upload directly must be linked??

thanks

Yeah, sorry for the late reply.

There's an overview on the process here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=829

But note that the old image sharing sites are no longer preferred or even in use. I use this one currently (very easy to use): https://imgbb.com/