Hawaii Five-O: Any Fans?

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Good news for those without access to Hawaii 5-0 on TV or thru having bought the series. Beginning January 21 the H & I Network
is going to run it. Hurrah, I won't be sitting here anymore jealously reading posts from such as Ivan about how good the series is.
I know where I will be a week from this friday, watching the two part opener. I can recall watching that when it originally
premiered, I was a kid and everybody was talking about it at school.

Hi Dobie, I just happened upon the H & I network and they're showing the season 1 classic "Yesterday Died and Tomorrow Won't Be Born" (where McG gets a belly full of lead from the vindictive John Larch, while jogging on the beach). It's a great episode!! One of the highlights of season 1 for sure!

How is your viewing going?

[T.Q.]

East Wind - Ill Wind

Okay. Not great.

The way the defector with the goods was killed at the beginning was cool.

Some interesting stuff. Taking out the girl accomplice. The search for the dossier. The mute girl.

6/10 seems about right.

It's becoming like Magnum for me. If I find an episode story so-so, I look for the good McGarrett moments similar to how I look for TM, Higgins, Rick, TC moments I enjoy.

MPI: John Allen, Bill Edwards

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

East Wind - Ill Wind

Okay. Not great.

The way the defector with the goods was killed at the beginning was cool.

Some interesting stuff. Taking out the girl accomplice. The search for the dossier. The mute girl.

6/10 seems about right.

It's becoming like Magnum for me. If I find an episode story so-so, I look for the good McGarrett moments similar to how I look for TM, Higgins, Rick, TC moments I enjoy.

MPI: John Allen, Bill Edwards

We've got a run of Cold War/espionage stories here so far in season 10. I agree this one isn't great but I do like it a bit more than "Deadly Doubles" but not as much as "Deep Cover". The drowning at the beginning and the mute girl Kati Parisa as the witness was good. This dreaded "Zadek" of the secret police conjures up scary images but when we finally see him at the end he's pretty underwhelming and of course ends up taking his own life.

Not bad, not great. Typical season 10 stuff. You'll note that Bill Edwards has been playing Jonathan Kaye for some time now.

Just curious - what McGarrett moments do you look forward to when the story doesn't really grab you? According to Mr. Mike, season 10 McGarrett is basically the governor's errand boy - constantly doing favors for the governor, often involving the governor's rich friends. Like the next one with James Sikking or the one with Eleanor Parker or the one with Mildred Natwick as the governor's busy-body sleuthing friend. It was also the governor who insisted that reporter Jean Simmons follow Five-O around on their case, much to McG's annoyance.

[T.Q.]

Just curious - what McGarrett moments do you look forward to when the story doesn't really grab you?

Just in general.

I love McGarrett now so his interactions with others I pay particular attention to his lines, acting and facial expressions and such. He has a lot of great dialogue.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

I love McGarrett now so his interactions with others I pay particular attention to his lines, acting and facial expressions and such. He has a lot of great dialogue.

Here here!! Great acting, great dialogue. Even though McGarrett does get more preachy in the later seasons, sometimes to a fault. But when you've been with McGarrett for so long he kinda gets under your skin and you can't help but identify with him and with his thirst for justice! He even takes a strong anti-gun stance in a season 12 episode ("What is this love affair that America has with guns? It happens nowhere else in the world! When do the rights of you gun lovers stop and the rights of ordinary citizens begin!?") and even if you disagree you can't help but jump up and yell "YEAH! You tell him, Steve-O Five-O!!"

[T.Q.]

Here here!! Great acting, great dialogue. Even though McGarrett does get more preachy in the later seasons

Kinda like accusing the Dad of racism right off the bat in....

Tread the King's Shadow

Bit of a weird episode but I thought it was an interesting change. Won't be on a recommended list or anything though.

All the hoopla over a girl running away with her boyfriend was strange. Probably a daily thing.

Hawaiian cultural stuff and Hawaiian family dynamics were interesting to me.

James Sikking of Hill Street Blues did a good job.

MPI: Kwan Hi Lim, Robert Harker

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Here here!! Great acting, great dialogue. Even though McGarrett does get more preachy in the later seasons

Kinda like accusing the Dad of racism right off the bat in....

Tread the King's Shadow

Bit of a weird episode but I thought it was an interesting change. Won't be on a recommended list or anything though.

All the hoopla over a girl running away with her boyfriend was strange. Probably a daily thing.

Hawaiian cultural stuff and Hawaiian family dynamics were interesting to me.

James Sikking of Hill Street Blues did a good job.

MPI: Kwan Hi Lim, Robert Harker

BLECH!!! Hate this episode! It's the absolute worst episode in the series up to this point. There's probably 2 more down the line as bad or even worse than this one.

All the hoopla over a girl running away with her boyfriend was strange. Probably a daily thing.

Exactly!! What's Five-O doing on this case?? Oh that's right, doing a favor for the governor because he's friends with "Mr. Moneybags". But the whole story is basically a teenage soap opera which has nothing to do with any crime being committed. It's a family squabble. And it's all dull as dishwater.

John Marley (who woke up with a horse's head in his bed in THE GODFATHER) is again playing a Hawaiian (as he did in season 1), playing the boy's uncle Noah. I have to admit that Marley with his swarthy features passes off as a Hawaiian pretty good. But I liked him much better in his 1st season appearance as Kono's distant uncle Sam Kalakua.

[T.Q.]

The Big Aloha

Meh.

Some interesting things.

Redeemable elements with the investigation going in different directions but not that great an episode.

I liked Dr. John Palahana.

Cool seeing Eleanor Parker the Baroness from Sound of Music.

We learn McGarrett is a "bleeding heart liberal".

Will this continue for the rest of the series? Hawaii Five 0 can't go woke!

MPI: Harold J.K. Iseke, Yankee Chang,

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

The Big Aloha

Meh.

Some interesting things.

Redeemable elements with the investigation going in different directions but not that great an episode.

I liked Dr. John Palahana.

Cool seeing Eleanor Parker the Baroness from Sound of Music.

We learn McGarrett is a "bleeding heart liberal".

Will this continue for the rest of the series? Hawaii Five 0 can't go woke!

MPI: Harold J.K. Iseke, Yankee Chang,

Meh is right. It's another attempt to go "Hawaiian" with this episode and to show the friction between the white upper crust society (again friends of the governor) and the "kanaka pineapple-picker" locals. Isn't that what Palahana calls himself? It's been a while since I've seen it. Throw in a doomed love affair between the rich white girl and Palahana. And something about some real estate scam. But none of this is interesting. There's no really interesting case to sink your teeth into. Unfortunately that's the trend with season 10 onward.

We learn McGarrett is a "bleeding heart liberal".

Will this continue for the rest of the series? Hawaii Five 0 can't go woke!

Don't worry. McG doesn't go woke. Well, there's his anti-gun rant in season 12 but that's not really "wokism".

[Pahonu]

The Big Aloha

Meh.

Some interesting things.

Redeemable elements with the investigation going in different directions but not that great an episode.

I liked Dr. John Palahana.

Cool seeing Eleanor Parker the Baroness from Sound of Music.

We learn McGarrett is a "bleeding heart liberal".

Will this continue for the rest of the series? Hawaii Five 0 can't go woke!

MPI: Harold J.K. Iseke, Yankee Chang,

Meh is right. It's another attempt to go "Hawaiian" with this episode and to show the friction between the white upper crust society (again friends of the governor) and the "kanaka pineapple-picker" locals. Isn't that what Palahana calls himself? It's been a while since I've seen it. Throw in a doomed love affair between the rich white girl and Palahana. And something about some real estate scam. But none of this is interesting. There's no really interesting case to sink your teeth into. Unfortunately that's the trend with season 10 onward.

We learn McGarrett is a "bleeding heart liberal".

Will this continue for the rest of the series? Hawaii Five 0 can't go woke!

Don't worry. McG doesn't go woke. Well, there's his anti-gun rant in season 12 but that's not really "wokism".

You two seem genuinely worried about McGarrett being liberal. The anti-gun rant outed him, all the other episodes were just him hiding his true woke self. I’m dying!!!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

You two seem genuinely worried about McGarrett being liberal. The anti-gun rant outed him, all the other episodes were just him hiding his true woke self. I’m dying!!!

McGarrett eats "woke folk" for breakfast! And he's VERY hungry!!!

[T.Q.]

You two seem genuinely worried about McGarrett being liberal. The anti-gun rant outed him, all the other episodes were just him hiding his true woke self. I’m dying!!!

Not liberal. Woke.

We get enough "guilt" on the daily for what happened 100 - 200 years ago in 2022.

Who needs more from a 1970s series.

I'm Polish/Ukrainian descent. Can't guilt me over past injustices solely based on my skin colour (there's a word for that).

My family and I didn't do nothin'.

It's just tiring.

P.S. I sympathize with natives getting the short end of the stick but it's history. And I'd much rather spend the day with "kanaka pineapple-pickers" than rich people. They're my peeps. I golfed in Maui once with an NFL tight-end and a local Hawaiian fisherman. I spent 4.5 hour talking with the fisherman. And I was a huge NFL fan.

[Pahonu]

You two seem genuinely worried about McGarrett being liberal. The anti-gun rant outed him, all the other episodes were just him hiding his true woke self. I’m dying!!!

Not liberal. Woke.

We get enough "guilt" on the daily for what happened 100 - 200 years ago in 2022.

Who needs more from a 1970s series.

I'm Polish/Ukrainian descent. Can't guilt me over past injustices solely based on my skin colour (there's a word for that).

My family and I didn't do nothin'.

It's just tiring.

P.S. I sympathize with natives getting the short end of the stick but it's history. And I'd much rather spend the day with "kanaka pineapple-pickers" than rich people. They're my peeps. I golfed in Maui once with an NFL tight-end and a local Hawaiian fisherman. I spent 4.5 hour talking with the fisherman. And I was a huge NFL fan.

Calling it history implies that nothing can or should be done about past injustices. That nothing can be done is simply not true, deciding if it should be done is a moral question. Using your example, witness tribal land restoration through the courts for dozens of Native American groups over the last several decades. Monetary awards have also been granted and this process of reparation continues today. Was the American Indian Movement “woke”? It spread awareness of these past injustices and sought restitution. Whether someone feels guilty about the acts of past generations is a personal response. Being tired of hearing about it is the same. It doesn’t change the reality that there have been injustices and supporting efforts to rectify the consequences of them seems to me to be the only ethical approach.

[T.Q.]

It spread awareness of these past injustices and sought restitution. Whether someone feels guilty about the acts of past generations is a personal response.

Past generations of whom? Based on skin colour alone?

Should a Jamaican feel guilty for what the Hutus did to the Tutsis because they share the same skin colour?

Well, somehow I'm supposed to feel "gulity" for what the French and English did hundreds of years ago in Canada.

Heck, I'm even expected to feel "guilty" for what US slave owners did even though I'm a Canadian of Polish/Ukrainian descent.

Nonsensical.

Yes, everyone on the planet is aware of past injustices.

Progress has been made. I have sympathy for Native Hawaiians getting scr*wed (as an example) and like that there are attempts to right some past wrongs. I actually side with the Hawaiian people to a reasonable extent. Unfortunately, you can't just turn back the clock and hand them Waikiki and Ka'anapali.

The issue with Woke is it goes far beyond this. Everything has been turned into one giant white guilt and Identity Politics mess 24/7. They are now political weapons. Even a lot of classic liberals see this.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

T.Q. you're Polish/Ukrainian?????????? Welcome to the club!! No wonder we get along so well.

I'm 100% Ukrainian!!! Born over there, immigrated here in 1991. Still speak and write in Ukrainian. And will teach my son the same!!

I know there's a huge Ukrainian population in Canada. I must have you over for some borscht!! Maybe Pahonu can join us too. He can regale us with architectural talk. No politics.