IvanTheTerrible wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:03 am Andrew Prine as the hitman was cool! There's a great scene where he looks bored (he's being chastised by his boss I think) and he just lets out this huge yawn! Too funny!
Prine also has a great line about the wino informer: “Why don't you take your friend down and have him shampooed and pressed."
Garwood, that was funny as hell!
I guess I don't "get" that joke. I mean maybe it's a little humorous but not exactly gut-busting funny. Oh well...
IvanTheTerrible wrote:I guess I don't "get" that joke. I mean maybe it's a little humorous but not exactly gut-busting funny. Oh well...
You found a yawn to be “too funny” and yet you didn’t agree that TV hitmen usuallly didn’t behave in such eccentric ways like our man Wally Hatch, which makes his “shampooed and pressed” remark all the more amusing.
Oh, forget it…it’s like explaining humor to Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
IvanTheTerrible wrote:I guess I don't "get" that joke. I mean maybe it's a little humorous but not exactly gut-busting funny. Oh well...
You found a yawn to be “too funny” and yet you didn’t agree that TV hitmen usuallly didn’t behave in such eccentric ways like our man Wally Hatch, which makes his “shampooed and pressed” remark all the more amusing.
Oh, forget it…it’s like explaining humor to Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation.
That's highly illogical, Captain Garwood.
Well, to me the yawn seemed pretty eccentric. Something you didn't see TV hitmen doing, especially not when getting grilled by their bosses. The yawn seemed really exaggerated and seemed to fit perfectly the eccentric personality of Wally Hatch. So that really stood out for me, even after all these years. Actually the "pressed and shampooed" comment must have totally escaped me because I honestly don't remember it, nor the wino you speak of. I guess we all remember or focus on different things when we watch them. I do remember Hatch referring to his partner Kimo as "Kimo-sabe".
IvanTheTerrible wrote:Well, to me the yawn seemed pretty eccentric. Something you didn't see TV hitmen doing, especially not when getting grilled by their bosses. The yawn seemed really exaggerated and seemed to fit perfectly the eccentric personality of Wally Hatch. So that really stood out for me, even after all these years. Actually the "pressed and shampooed" comment must have totally escaped me because I honestly don't remember it, nor the wino you speak of. I guess we all remember or focus on different things when we watch them. I do remember Hatch referring to his partner Kimo as "Kimo-sabe".
You are correct in that everyone brings their “baggage” to what they watch or listen to. Hatch’s remark about the wino immediately caught my attention for how offbeat and imo amusing it was (to me). The character was, for my dough, one of the show’s more memorable villains.
T.Q. wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:19 pmDeath's Name Is Sam
I liked this one.
“Sulu” was good. How he was inserted. Too bad he was blown to bits.
I liked the room 855/856 decoy stuff.
Production value criticized but I don’t expect a ton from a 70s TV show.
Pretty exciting climax.
“How was the flight.”
“Very smooth.”
Ignorance is bliss.
MPI: Robin Master’s Estate (with the Hughes thrown in reminded me of TC), Elissa Dulce Hoopai
Yes, a VERY good episode! One that I would probably place in my top 5 for the season. I like the mystery aspect of the whole thing, putting the pieces together, unraveling the whole dastardly plot! George Takei arriving at Robin's Nest and having no clue what's going on but pretending like he's one of them. Very tense undercover work there. And of course getting blown out of the sky for his troubles by the rocket launcher!
Little Garwood wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:24 pm
You are correct in that everyone brings their “baggage” to what they watch or listen to. Hatch’s remark about the wino immediately caught my attention for how offbeat and imo amusing it was (to me). The character was, for my dough, one of the show’s more memorable villains.
He definitely benefits the episode but I wouldn't go as far as putting him alongside the series' best villains. I don't know that he would even make the top 5 for season 8. Just thinking about the Ed Asner and Kwan Hi Lim pairing in "Wooden Model of a Rat" and Prine definitely falls short of those two.
Little Garwood wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:24 pm
You are correct in that everyone brings their “baggage” to what they watch or listen to. Hatch’s remark about the wino immediately caught my attention for how offbeat and imo amusing it was (to me). The character was, for my dough, one of the show’s more memorable villains.
He definitely benefits the episode but I wouldn't go as far as putting him alongside the series' best villains. I don't know that he would even make the top 5 for season 8. Just thinking about the Ed Asner and Kwan Hi Lim pairing in "Wooden Model of a Rat" and Prine definitely falls short of those two.
I never claimed Hatch was among the series’ best, but rather he is among the more memorable, so he’s among a pack, not leading it.
Asner and Kwan make a fine duo, though they didn’t have to compete with Susan Dey’s bare midriff!
Wooden Model of a Rat is one of those fun “Cultured McGarrett” episodes I enjoy so much.
Little Garwood wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:24 pm
You are correct in that everyone brings their “baggage” to what they watch or listen to. Hatch’s remark about the wino immediately caught my attention for how offbeat and imo amusing it was (to me). The character was, for my dough, one of the show’s more memorable villains.
He definitely benefits the episode but I wouldn't go as far as putting him alongside the series' best villains. I don't know that he would even make the top 5 for season 8. Just thinking about the Ed Asner and Kwan Hi Lim pairing in "Wooden Model of a Rat" and Prine definitely falls short of those two.
I never claimed Hatch was among the series’ best, but rather he is among the more memorable, so he’s among a pack, not leading it.
Asner and Kwan make a fine duo, though they didn’t have to compete with Susan Dey’s bare midriff!
Wooden Model of a Rat is one of those fun “Cultured McGarrett” episodes I enjoy so much.
Yep, "Wooden Model" would make for a fine double-feature with "How to Steal a Masterpiece". Cultured McGarrett and the art world. Not among my favorites but they're good enough on their own.
Just noticed I skipped The Case Against McGarrett somehow by mistake. Will watch Wednesday.
Soon-Tek Oh and Pat Hingle (Garwood Huddle). Now that's a good MPI combo. Enjoyed their screen time together.
Good episode overall.
Kept me on my toes what the heck was going on with this Chaing character.
The imposter scenario always fun.
Good ending with McGarrett keeping his cool with the obnoxious Orsmbee. He did a great job playing an ahole. I thought Steve shoulda popped him.
MPI: See above
"The Defector" is a good solid espionage episode which gets better with each rewatch. I remember a long time ago not caring for it, finding it on the dull side. I think most of that had to do with all the Navy scenes on the ship and the scenes with the trained dolphins retrieving some stuff (can't recall the specifics now). I found all that stuff dull and quite frankly I was confused what was going on. Though I suppose I should have been impressed by the trained dolphins. But of course the impostor bit is the best part of the episode, wondering how long Soon Taik-Oh can keep up his charade before the jig is up. Also as a kid I remember thinking it must be painful shooting yourself in the arm, as he did at the start of the episode. Of course I appreciate the episode much more now and don't find it dull at all. I can also appreciate Pat Hingle as the cantankerous Ormsbee and his scenes with Jack Lord are great! So great that he was brought back 2 more times next season!
Liked how they had McGarrett's escape route covered.
And the "court case" was very cool.
I was hoping the inmates would side with McGarrett. Thought the trial was gonna play out and they would. Didn't happen that way but they did squeeze it in.
And liked the affection Danno and Steve have for each other at the end.
Solid episode. Solid acting.
MPI: Danny Kamekona, Seth Sakai
Knocking my rubber chicken or my sloppy habits is within the rules, but you're attacking my character. I would like to think you don't mean that.
T.Q. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:35 pmThe Case Against McGarrett
Excellent.
Man, Harold Gould is so good.
Glad they did a quick recap (very useful for me).
Liked how they had McGarrett's escape route covered.
And the "court case" was very cool.
I was hoping the inmates would side with McGarrett. Thought the trial was gonna play out and they would. Didn't happen that way but they did squeeze it in.
And liked the affection Danno and Steve have for each other at the end.
Solid episode. Solid acting.
MPI: Danny Kamekona, Seth Sakai
I think this was always a top 5 episode for the season for me. But the last time or two that I watched it I felt that the magic that was there in the original Vashon trilogy was missing. Mainly Harold Gould's portrayal of Vashon. I don't want to say that it was bad, just different. More unhinged I guess. Which makes sense I guess. He's been in prison all this time and he finally gets his chance to get back at McGarrett. He's so filled with hatred for McGarrett that he's beginning to unravel mentally. Again, a very good unhinged version of Vashon and Gould is very convincing. It's just that I prefer the earlier Honore Vashon of the classic trilogy. At the end of the day it's still a solid prison drama with moments of real tension but as far as tense prison dramas go it can't touch season 1's "The Box" with Big Chicken, which is my favorite season 1 episode.
I think "Death's Name is SAM" has taken the place of this episode in my top 5 for season 8. Still, I don't want it to sound like this is an inferior episode in any way. For season 8 it's very good. It's just not up to par with the original trilogy which are in a whole different league.
T.Q. wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:41 amSing a Song of Suspense
Pretty standard story but pretty good episode.
B-Movie Tom Atkins played a decent bad guy.
The set up at the end with the recording and McGarrett pouncing was cool. Bit predictable but that happens.
Some cool different MPI:
Keokeokalae Hughes
Reri Tava Jobe
Jimmy Borges
Yep, it's a pretty good episode. No classic but solid. About on par with "Target? The Lady" with Susan Dey. Another attempt at some romance here between McGarrett and Chelsea. Not too bad. Pretty well done. Yes, Tom Atkins as the baddie was pretty effective. Love his name - Koko Apaleka! When he lets his wife fall to her death at the start - that was pretty cold-blooded. The most tense part of the episode for sure!
Too funny!
I mean maybe it's a little humorous but not exactly gut-busting funny. 
Oh well...
