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Somebody contacted me who talked to a real estate agent at Caldwell Banker about Pahonu. In summary, this is what he said:

1) The boathouse is in shambles and needs to be completely rebuilt (I guess we already knew that, but it's confirmed now)
2) The main house is in dire need of repair, but can be restored
3) The property is not on the historic register (which we already knew, so verified again)
4) The inside of the main house has lots of, uh... stuff (lets just leave it at that). They are in the process of removing everything and would like to "spruce up" the inside to make it presentable to buyers. No pictures at this time.
5) Mrs. Anderson has many pets

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Thanks for the update James!

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I know she is fond of dogs and birds too. I remember Rick Romer saying in his blog there were a lot of bird cages inside. It's funny when you have the space you find a way of filling it with stuff.......it reminds me of an old George Carlin monologue about STUFF....you can watch it on Youtube.....look for this one GEORGE CARLIN TALKS ABOUT "STUFF" by Cappy NJ as it mentions Honolulu...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac . I'm hoping Eve's place isn't a bad episode of Hoarders and more like the relatives storing items at Auntie's big house because she has the room.....reading the message that James received has me worried though. :shock:
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J.J. Walters wrote:Somebody contacted me who talked to a real estate agent at Caldwell Banker about Pahonu. In summary, this is what he said:

1) The boathouse is in shambles and needs to be completely rebuilt (I guess we already knew that, but it's confirmed now)
2) The main house is in dire need of repair, but can be restored
3) The property is not on the historic register (which we already knew, so verified again)
4) The inside of the main house has lots of, uh... stuff (lets just leave it at that). They are in the process of removing everything and would like to "spruce up" the inside to make it presentable to buyers. No pictures at this time.
5) Mrs. Anderson has many pets

Everybody keep buying those lottery tickets! :)
This reminds me of the documentary Grey Gardens. Anyone seen it? An old woman from a wealthy family lives with her now elderly daughter (and lots of pets and stuff) in the families dilapidated old mansion. Kind of sad, and I don't believe that home still exists.

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KENJI wrote:Hi Pahonu,
I hope you are right with the ceiling height, but back then it was most likely just for storage and nothing else so it is plausible they didn't need to go to 8ft or more. I've seen this happen in many old homes like that ( a real shame)...fingers crossed it isn't the case here.....another thought I was wondering if sea level might come into play if they went down too far......the elevation is probably around 10 to 15 ft. tops....yes they have the wall next to the beach, but you know what water is like. At 8ft...you could be okay, but any deeper might make things a little more interesting when a storm comes in.

Okay...another question what is that single gate or wrought iron panel that you see in the zip file? TM is in his housecoat coming around the corner to confront Higgins and this gate or ornate window guard is right there. I've never seen another one and I'm curious what it's for (only decoration or does it double as a window guard as well) and where does it go (if anywhere).
I think water intrusion from the high tide line would have been a concern for the builder even then. That might explain why the basement doesn't go nearly as close to the seawall as the house itself. It stops about halfway, at the stair hall. I still think the basement would have had standing headroom at the very least. Why else bother to build it in the first place. It's completely unnecessary for the climate, and probably quite rare in Hawaii. I understand it was probably used for storage from the start, but it's a huge basement, and a 5 height would be rediculous to move around in. I would wager it's 7 feet at the least.

As to your question, that is a decorative wrought iron grill, a feature very common on Spanish Colonial Revival architecture. Look closely at the two windows just around the corner on the first floor. They face the water and there is ivy all over the wall. They have wrought iron grills over them also. Pahonu doesn't have very many grills compared to some landmark homes in the style, but it has lots of other wrought iron work on the many balcony railings and stair railing. Wrought iron decoration is ubiquitous in that style.

To see incredible examples of this kind of detailing check out this link: http://casadelherrero.com/explore_iframe.html

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ConchRepublican wrote:I just downloaded the 3D model . . . oh . . . My . . . GOD!!

Amazing work Pahonu!!!! I need a lesson in how to get around the house. :-)
Thanks for the compliment, Conch.

Depending on the version of SketchUp you have, use the button that looks like a pair of footprints to "walk" around the model. It's also possible to cut into the model, slicing it open like a cake to look at the floor plan or any section. That button is called "section plane".

If you want to PM me, I can send you the latest version with changes to the living room based on the Vegas episode we have been discussing.

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Pahonu wrote:
KENJI wrote:Hi Pahonu,
I hope you are right with the ceiling height, but back then it was most likely just for storage and nothing else so it is plausible they didn't need to go to 8ft or more. I've seen this happen in many old homes like that ( a real shame)...fingers crossed it isn't the case here.....another thought I was wondering if sea level might come into play if they went down too far......the elevation is probably around 10 to 15 ft. tops....yes they have the wall next to the beach, but you know what water is like. At 8ft...you could be okay, but any deeper might make things a little more interesting when a storm comes in.

Okay...another question what is that single gate or wrought iron panel that you see in the zip file? TM is in his housecoat coming around the corner to confront Higgins and this gate or ornate window guard is right there. I've never seen another one and I'm curious what it's for (only decoration or does it double as a window guard as well) and where does it go (if anywhere).
I think water intrusion from the high tide line would have been a concern for the builder even then. That might explain why the basement doesn't go nearly as close to the seawall as the house itself. It stops about halfway, at the stair hall. I still think the basement would have had standing headroom at the very least. Why else bother to build it in the first place. It's completely unnecessary for the climate, and probably quite rare in Hawaii. I understand it was probably used for storage from the start, but it's a huge basement, and a 5 height would be rediculous to move around in. I would wager it's 7 feet at the least.

As to your question, that is a decorative wrought iron grill, a feature very common on Spanish Colonial Revival architecture. Look closely at the two windows just around the corner on the first floor. They face the water and there is ivy all over the wall. They have wrought iron grills over them also. Pahonu doesn't have very many grills compared to some landmark homes in the style, but it has lots of other wrought iron work on the many balcony railings and stair railing. Wrought iron decoration is ubiquitous in that style.

To see incredible examples of this kind of detailing check out this link: http://casadelherrero.com/explore_iframe.html
Hi Pahonu,

Thanks for the wrought iron answer.....decoration it is then. The link you added was great too!

Back to the basement.....7ft. sounds like a good compromise....not to small and not to tall for back then........even at 7ft it is a bit cozy for head room, but like you said more functional.............I hope its 8 or 9ft.!

Thanks again!

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KENJI wrote:
Pahonu wrote:
KENJI wrote:Hi Pahonu,
I hope you are right with the ceiling height, but back then it was most likely just for storage and nothing else so it is plausible they didn't need to go to 8ft or more. I've seen this happen in many old homes like that ( a real shame)...fingers crossed it isn't the case here.....another thought I was wondering if sea level might come into play if they went down too far......the elevation is probably around 10 to 15 ft. tops....yes they have the wall next to the beach, but you know what water is like. At 8ft...you could be okay, but any deeper might make things a little more interesting when a storm comes in.

Okay...another question what is that single gate or wrought iron panel that you see in the zip file? TM is in his housecoat coming around the corner to confront Higgins and this gate or ornate window guard is right there. I've never seen another one and I'm curious what it's for (only decoration or does it double as a window guard as well) and where does it go (if anywhere).
I think water intrusion from the high tide line would have been a concern for the builder even then. That might explain why the basement doesn't go nearly as close to the seawall as the house itself. It stops about halfway, at the stair hall. I still think the basement would have had standing headroom at the very least. Why else bother to build it in the first place. It's completely unnecessary for the climate, and probably quite rare in Hawaii. I understand it was probably used for storage from the start, but it's a huge basement, and a 5 height would be rediculous to move around in. I would wager it's 7 feet at the least.

As to your question, that is a decorative wrought iron grill, a feature very common on Spanish Colonial Revival architecture. Look closely at the two windows just around the corner on the first floor. They face the water and there is ivy all over the wall. They have wrought iron grills over them also. Pahonu doesn't have very many grills compared to some landmark homes in the style, but it has lots of other wrought iron work on the many balcony railings and stair railing. Wrought iron decoration is ubiquitous in that style.

To see incredible examples of this kind of detailing check out this link: http://casadelherrero.com/explore_iframe.html
Hi Pahonu,

Thanks for the wrought iron answer.....decoration it is then. The link you added was great too!

Back to the basement.....7ft. sounds like a good compromise....not to small and not to tall for back then........even at 7ft it is a bit cozy for head room, but like you said more functional.............I hope its 8 or 9ft.!

Thanks again!
I have no experience with buildings in Hawaii since i am a Swede :D . But it wouldn´t make any sence with a seiling that is so low that you can´t even stand tall with all those square meters. Maybe if it was a small room.
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#775 Post by Pahonu »

No, the basement was large, about 1900 sq ft or 175 meters squared. I agree with you, though, a low ceiling wouldn't make any sense.

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The word is out: http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/02/magnum-p- ... 5-million/

Though clearly not written by an actual MPI fan considering they referred to Robin's Nest as a "private club", the tidal pool as a "lagoon" and said it went for 9 seasons.

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TMZ got some facts wrong. I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked! :roll:
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I wasn't sure if the info came from tmz or manetti.

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J.J. Walters wrote:TMZ got some facts wrong. I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked! :roll:
:lol:
TMZ is just a mess of gossip.
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No need to know! wrote:
J.J. Walters wrote:TMZ got some facts wrong. I'm shocked, I tell you! Shocked! :roll:
:lol:
TMZ is just a mess of gossip.
I think that is one of the annoyances I have with this age of "on the fly reporting" in that people don't bother to check their facts or get names right. It's like "Let's be the first one out there, regardless "

Today I was reading something about the Super Bowl and they were referring to Marshawn Lynch and "Best Mode"*

(I really wish there was a "Shaking My Head" smiley).

*It's actually "Beast Mode" for the non (American) football enthusiasts out there.

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