The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
I found certain aspects of this episode's storyline a bit uncomfortable, partly fake Macs mercenary manipulation of his so called friends but mainly the whole geisha/enslavement aspect.
While I appreciate the tone of the episode was light hearted I didn't like the "selling" of the 3 girls from one man to another yet I appreciate the values of the 1980's are different to that of the those some 30+ years later.
There is a possibility that my ignorance of aspects of Japanese culture is making me read this all wrong, but I'm glad Higgins saw it as I did. Proof I have become an old git perhaps !
While I appreciate the tone of the episode was light hearted I didn't like the "selling" of the 3 girls from one man to another yet I appreciate the values of the 1980's are different to that of the those some 30+ years later.
There is a possibility that my ignorance of aspects of Japanese culture is making me read this all wrong, but I'm glad Higgins saw it as I did. Proof I have become an old git perhaps !
Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
Good silly episode. The 3 oriental ladies are delightful, especially in the bikini scenes at the end. Higgins has some funny scenes with them. The rental cars bits with TSM are good.
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
I like the comedy episodes usually, but I did not like this one at all. There's lots of gripes to this one. Mac had JUST scammed the club and Rick, personally, out of $3,000 worth of meals yet Rick jumps at the chance to do buisness with him. Rick planned to ask Robin Masters pay off a member of organised crime so that other members of organised crime will be dealt with easier. Rick knows enough inside information on little league exhibition games to be able to make informed bets, but he didn't know that ten goals in soccer was an astrinomical amount? Despite being told repeatedly that the man in her house was not Danny the aerobics instructor she was still wanting him to work on her legs. The girls would start serving anyone if they mentioned they were their new master. Zeus and Appollo had the ability to get into the study and untie Higgins and yet Higgins didn't think to have them do it until he needed them to answer the telephone. The lads had the ability to get into the room and were supposed to be security, but seemingly just stayed near the beach playing with the girls while Yakuza were invading the house. One of the guys that roughed up Rick, whom was in the military and once went after his sister's killers alone, was taken out by three girls that maybe weighed 95 lbs each with ease while Magnum took out the much larger guy with a bowl of lemons and a chair. The guys didn't turn Mac over to the authorities when he had, obviously, been running serious crimes against them. Higgins thought nothing of opening Magnum's shower door and exposing him to the Japaneese women he had just met.
Some of the positives of the episode include Magnum being one step behind Mac and having to keep renting a different car to get to the next town. The brilliant way that Mac had planted the ticket for the dinner for two courtesy of Rick knowing that he'd take them to the estate and Mac could get them back there. Rick having to face that Icepick wasn't going to help him out of the jam.
Some of the positives of the episode include Magnum being one step behind Mac and having to keep renting a different car to get to the next town. The brilliant way that Mac had planted the ticket for the dinner for two courtesy of Rick knowing that he'd take them to the estate and Mac could get them back there. Rick having to face that Icepick wasn't going to help him out of the jam.
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
It's best to not think about the plot holes too much and just enjoy the ride.
http://magnum-mania.com/Video/Lemon_Brawl.html
That scene is a classic 80's TV brawl right there. On some level, you know you liked it. A bowl of lemons can be a very effective weapon in a fight. What would you do when faced with a barrage of lemons launched at your head from an ex-QB/Navy Seal?SignGuyHPW wrote:One of the guys that roughed up Rick, whom was in the military and once went after his sister's killers alone, was taken out by three girls that maybe weighed 95 lbs each with ease while Magnum took out the much larger guy with a bowl of lemons and a chair.
http://magnum-mania.com/Video/Lemon_Brawl.html
Higgins: It's not a scratch! It's a bloody gouge!
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
I generally can just enjoy the ride, but I thought this one was actually damaging to the characters. I don't mind the comedy at all, but when it makes the characters look bad then I can't enjoy it as much. The brawl was a great comedic brawl, but was out of place considering the situation.J.J. Walters wrote:It's best to not think about the plot holes too much and just enjoy the ride.
That scene is a classic 80's TV brawl right there. On some level, you know you liked it. A bowl of lemons can be a very effective weapon in a fight. What would you do when faced with a barrage of lemons launched at your head from an ex-QB/Navy Seal?SignGuyHPW wrote:One of the guys that roughed up Rick, whom was in the military and once went after his sister's killers alone, was taken out by three girls that maybe weighed 95 lbs each with ease while Magnum took out the much larger guy with a bowl of lemons and a chair.
http://magnum-mania.com/Video/Lemon_Brawl.html
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Steve wrote:I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the picture is a photograph of Larry Manetti's wife. I'm sorry I couldn't capture the following picture of Larry and his wife at the "Monte Walsh" premier I found on IMDB, but just click on the link and try to imagine her twenty years ago.....
http://us.imdb.com/media/rm3283589120/nm0542027
J.J. Walters wrote:Hmm, I don't know. I don't think it's her. Here is a screen cap of her from "Computer Date" (1982)...
I think the pic is Mrs. Manetti:
Similar forehead and jawline. Similar hair styles.
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
I think this episode is completely ridiculous and fun and gave it an 8.
- I am in the minority but I like fake Mac. He gives a good comedic element in his recurring role.
- Any episode focusing on Rick is awesome, he completely cracks me up with his crazy and usually unsuccessful business deals.
- Pretty hilarious that poor Magnum didn't get his fishing trips. Mr Wong? Ha ha ha died laughing when they kept calling TM that.
- The Lad's holding the phone for Higgins was the highlight for me, I LOVE those two and feel like they are vital to the show altogether.
- Would Icepick really treat Rick that harshly? I mean, breaking his legs when he's like a son to him? I get that he lent him a large sum of $ but I'm always a little surprised at this part given their long time relationship.
- The lead Japanese girl is very easy on the eyes
- The lemon scene is just awful but is so dang funny I can't help but laugh. And I love TC throwing Mack back in the drink at the end lol.
This is just a silly episode that I enjoy. More evidence of the fantastic range that Magnum PI showed, it could be silly and comical or deadly serious and be awesome either way!
- I am in the minority but I like fake Mac. He gives a good comedic element in his recurring role.
- Any episode focusing on Rick is awesome, he completely cracks me up with his crazy and usually unsuccessful business deals.
- Pretty hilarious that poor Magnum didn't get his fishing trips. Mr Wong? Ha ha ha died laughing when they kept calling TM that.
- The Lad's holding the phone for Higgins was the highlight for me, I LOVE those two and feel like they are vital to the show altogether.
- Would Icepick really treat Rick that harshly? I mean, breaking his legs when he's like a son to him? I get that he lent him a large sum of $ but I'm always a little surprised at this part given their long time relationship.
- The lead Japanese girl is very easy on the eyes
- The lemon scene is just awful but is so dang funny I can't help but laugh. And I love TC throwing Mack back in the drink at the end lol.
This is just a silly episode that I enjoy. More evidence of the fantastic range that Magnum PI showed, it could be silly and comical or deadly serious and be awesome either way!
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
The "lemon" scene was just way too silly on what already was a pretty silly episode. The shocker to me was Icepick's attitude toward Rick and the loaning/payback of the money. I thought they were closer than that.
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
Interesting that the sisters are named Tamiko, Umeko and Shakiko in the credits, but Rick clearly introduces Umeko as "Shazuay" (sp?). Well, interesting to me as I write the DV - I had to go back and change all my descriptions - "Umeko hits him with a champagne bottle" etc.
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I want to know this too. It bugs me the way they never give subtitles/translations when people aren't speaking English.Magnums Little Voice wrote:Not a bad one, but The Mac Character so so so gets on my nerves!!!
I mean Thomas, Rik and TC are all clever guys yet they keep getting had by MAC, I mean this is getting silly now!!!
Still some good bits in this episode, Love when Higgins talks Japanese!! Does anyone know what he said???
I didn't realize you were so addicted to pool.
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
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There is slavery everywhere, they just call it human trafficking now.Croix de Lorraine wrote:A few observations:
1) There is no slavery in Japan
That was weird and while a funny idea to embarrass Higgins, it should have been rewritten to make it a more believable situation. Perhaps you hear the water turn off and she steps out of the shower at the same moment Higgins opens the bathroom door. Different camera angle, of course. LOL2) Higgins opens the shower door expecting to find Magnum but finds one of the Japanese girls instead. Is he that close to Magnum that he thinks nothing of opening the shower door when Magnum is inside?
I didn't realize you were so addicted to pool.
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
I don't know about FakeMac, but I don't think Rick for a moment believed he really "owned" the girls. As TC said, he merely had them in his care for now. The whole "I bought these ladies with the boat" thing was just to egg Higgins on.charybdis1966 wrote:I found certain aspects of this episode's storyline a bit uncomfortable, partly fake Macs mercenary manipulation of his so called friends but mainly the whole geisha/enslavement aspect.
While I appreciate the tone of the episode was light hearted I didn't like the "selling" of the 3 girls from one man to another yet I appreciate the values of the 1980's are different to that of the those some 30+ years later.
I don't think it's anything to do with Japanese culture per se, but rather an underworld crime element in which human trafficking is not out of the question.There is a possibility that my ignorance of aspects of Japanese culture is making me read this all wrong, but I'm glad Higgins saw it as I did. Proof I have become an old git perhaps !
I didn't realize you were so addicted to pool.
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
It's not pool.
Billiards.
Snooker!
Snucker.
SNOOKER!
Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
IMO this was the worst episode of maybe the entire show. So cringy that I almost couldn't finish it.
Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
Pretty bad, among the worst. Did not hold my interest at all.
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Re: The Love-For-Sale Boat (5.17)
Hi KHale,K Hale wrote:I don't know about FakeMac, but I don't think Rick for a moment believed he really "owned" the girls. As TC said, he merely had them in his care for now. The whole "I bought these ladies with the boat" thing was just to egg Higgins on.charybdis1966 wrote:I found certain aspects of this episode's storyline a bit uncomfortable, partly fake Macs mercenary manipulation of his so called friends but mainly the whole geisha/enslavement aspect.
While I appreciate the tone of the episode was light hearted I didn't like the "selling" of the 3 girls from one man to another yet I appreciate the values of the 1980's are different to that of the those some 30+ years later.
I don't think it's anything to do with Japanese culture per se, but rather an underworld crime element in which human trafficking is not out of the question.There is a possibility that my ignorance of aspects of Japanese culture is making me read this all wrong, but I'm glad Higgins saw it as I did. Proof I have become an old git perhaps !
I think we might have to keep in mind the writers were probably all born in the 1930's and as we have noted there is a lot of homages and winking of an eye to old movies/plots through out the series. Their sensibilities were formed when they grew up by the culture of men who were probably born at the turn of the century!
So, for instance, it was perfectly acceptable to have in separate episodes of Bonanza for Little Joe and Hoss to comically acquire Chinese slave girls, in Hoss's case Marlo Thomas. In B movies and cheap serials of the 1940's that was a theme, so maybe without thinking the writers - who are probably now in their 80's - recycled a plot line that for them had no implications of human trafficking as we understand it today.
Cultural values from the early 20th century seem so far away but they really aren't so a echo of them isn't that odd. The Napoleonic Era seems far off but my grandmother
when a young girl would listen to a ancient woman in her village tell stories of when Napoleon's troops marched thru their town when she was a wee girl. Okay I'm off on a tangent now, starting to sound like Higgy Baby.