No Need to Know (1.5)

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#61 Post by ConchRepublican »

Jacqueline Bissett, Rebecca deMornay, Lindsey Wagner, Julia Duffy, Susan St. James, Stephanie Zimbalist ....

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[quote="ConchRepublican"]

I see what you're saying here and I kind of agree. I always felt that the female characters opposite Thomas weren't "up to snuff" if you will.

I wonder though if that was on purpose.[/quote]

Yes, I see your point, it may have been on purpose. Instead of having a normal girl, they alway seem to have some personality problem and it likely is done to bring out the Magnum character who deals with ongoing problems, be it an authoritative Higgins, bad guys or some dilemma. Why have a female character who is nice, normal and attractive when you can add ones with attitudes. Magnum is always being disrespected, how many times is he being called a P.I. instead of a Private Investigator?

I think that is why I liked Robin Dearden so much in this episode, a normal girl, somewhat attractive, pleasant to be around and despite making her into the villain, they waited until the very end.

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#63 Post by Croix de Lorraine »

This episode contains one of my favorite exchanges between Magnum and Higgins:

Higgins: Ahoy there! Ahoy there!
Magnum: "Ahoy there"? Very good, Higgins...

This is also the first episode where Magnum and Higgins show respect and concern for each other.

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I just discovered that Robin Dearden, who plays Mandy, is the wife of actor Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad").


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I'm new here so my apologies if this kind of info is considered too trivial for mention :D

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gilb wrote:I just discovered that Robin Dearden, who plays Mandy, is the wife of actor Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad").


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I'm new here so my apologies if this kind of info is considered too trivial for mention :D
Trivial? No such thing! That's pretty cool info.

In fact, I think you just made a buddy in Sisophous. :D
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gilb wrote:I just discovered that Robin Dearden, who plays Mandy, is the wife of actor Bryan Cranston ("Breaking Bad").


P.S.

I'm new here so my apologies if this kind of info is considered too trivial for mention :D
No piece of information is too trivial here! We're a pretty laid back bunch.

Easily one of the more civil and urbane cornersof the internet.

Welcome aboard!

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#67 Post by SignGuyHPW »

This was pretty classic Magnum PI. You had some comedy, some very serious drama, some great character moments, the car, the action, the women in bikinis all in one episode.

What I mainly didn't like was the lack of explanation as to how the girl attempting the assassination ended up in that spot. Did she befriend Robin Masters in order to trick him? Did she become involved in the IRA after the friendship with Masters which made her the logical choice for the mission? Was this girl someone that took the place of the actual guest of Robin Masters without the people in Hawaii knowing? It was left unclear which kind of bugged me. I also thought that it was strange that the government had wanted Magnum to look after the Brigadeer, but not Robin and Higgins. Most of the time after this they specifically requested Magnum handle all security matters while the person was on the estate.

I thought that this was a great way to kind of tie in Magnum's recent NIA career even though he wasn't personally ever in Ireland. It was also a great foreshadowing of how Magnum and Higgins would become close later as Magnum was concerned with what had happened to Higgins despite being grabbed by guys with automatic weapons. The surprise twist of whom the assassin really was was actually pretty clever even though they didn't delve too deep into it. It also was another example of how Magnum would have something seemingly minor reasonate with him after a while to show a major clue. That was something that happened in a lot of great episodes.

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Shermy wrote:
The real highlight is the after-dinner scene, as Magnum enjoys cigars, drinks, and above all, irritating Higgins. (Then again, Mandy in the bikini makes for some pretty memorable scenes as well.) I also love the punchline to the suspenseful finale, as Higgins becomes impatient while waiting for the bomb to blow.

To top it off, there's another classic ending with Magnum returning T.C.'s dinner jacket...then quickly fleeing to avoid his wrath! :lol:

The after dinner scene was hilarious! Magnum in a tux and jeans sipping brandy and smoking cigars lol. I love how Higgins purposely bumps into him because he is so irritated at him being there and enjoying himself. Mandy in the bikini was fantastic! We'll see her again before all that long in The Elmo Ziller story (and that's fine by me:)). I had never been a big fan of this episode in prior viewings but liked it more this time. A good action packed episode dealing with some real life issues and a good twist, they really sell that it's the wierdo on the kayak with the creepy apartment who's going to knock off the brigadeer. That actor is pretty unmistakable and I know he's in several other episodes (From Moscow to Maui and Compulsion at least) so I got a kick out of that as I enjoy spotting repeat bit actors. I do have one small complaint though. Did anyone else find the two CIA/FBI agents (can't remember which they were) to be poorly cast? The one guys complaining about being hungry the whole episode and the other guy was fairly ridiculous and reminded me of the actor from Perfect Strangers lol. I just thought they could have had better more serious actors/tones that would have made them more believeable governement cops/agents. Nevertheless, a good solid episode!

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Milton Collins wrote:I do have one small complaint though. Did anyone else find the two CIA/FBI agents (can't remember which they were) to be poorly cast? The one guys complaining about being hungry the whole episode and the other guy was fairly ridiculous and reminded me of the actor from Perfect Strangers lol. I just thought they could have had better more serious actors/tones that would have made them more believeable governement cops/agents.
I liked that the government agents were played as incompetent buffoons and how they stood out like a sore thumb in Hawaii. Ed Grover, who played Hooker, played a similar role with a comedic touch in a few episodes of Quincy, M.E. as Customs Agent Niven. Grover was also the voiceover guy for numerous Visa credit card TV commercials in the '80s, so whenever he speaks in No Need to Know, I feel compelled to say out loud: "...and they DON'T take American Express." (or words to that effect
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Yeah maybe that was what they were going for, the agents to be inept and goofy. If so they did a good job:)

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Milton Collins wrote:
Shermy wrote:
The real highlight is the after-dinner scene, as Magnum enjoys cigars, drinks, and above all, irritating Higgins. (Then again, Mandy in the bikini makes for some pretty memorable scenes as well.) I also love the punchline to the suspenseful finale, as Higgins becomes impatient while waiting for the bomb to blow.

To top it off, there's another classic ending with Magnum returning T.C.'s dinner jacket...then quickly fleeing to avoid his wrath! :lol:

The after dinner scene was hilarious! Magnum in a tux and jeans sipping brandy and smoking cigars lol. I love how Higgins purposely bumps into him because he is so irritated at him being there and enjoying himself. Mandy in the bikini was fantastic! We'll see her again before all that long in The Elmo Ziller story (and that's fine by me:)). I had never been a big fan of this episode in prior viewings but liked it more this time. A good action packed episode dealing with some real life issues and a good twist, they really sell that it's the wierdo on the kayak with the creepy apartment who's going to knock off the brigadeer. That actor is pretty unmistakable and I know he's in several other episodes (From Moscow to Maui and Compulsion at least) so I got a kick out of that as I enjoy spotting repeat bit actors. I do have one small complaint though. Did anyone else find the two CIA/FBI agents (can't remember which they were) to be poorly cast? The one guys complaining about being hungry the whole episode and the other guy was fairly ridiculous and reminded me of the actor from Perfect Strangers lol. I just thought they could have had better more serious actors/tones that would have made them more believeable governement cops/agents. Nevertheless, a good solid episode!
I remember that nudge, wasn't that so Thomas would sit up (like a grownup I always took it) without his one leg crossed?
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ConchRepublican wrote:
Milton Collins wrote:
Shermy wrote:
The real highlight is the after-dinner scene, as Magnum enjoys cigars, drinks, and above all, irritating Higgins. (Then again, Mandy in the bikini makes for some pretty memorable scenes as well.) I also love the punchline to the suspenseful finale, as Higgins becomes impatient while waiting for the bomb to blow.

To top it off, there's another classic ending with Magnum returning T.C.'s dinner jacket...then quickly fleeing to avoid his wrath! :lol:

The after dinner scene was hilarious! Magnum in a tux and jeans sipping brandy and smoking cigars lol. I love how Higgins purposely bumps into him because he is so irritated at him being there and enjoying himself. Mandy in the bikini was fantastic! We'll see her again before all that long in The Elmo Ziller story (and that's fine by me:)). I had never been a big fan of this episode in prior viewings but liked it more this time. A good action packed episode dealing with some real life issues and a good twist, they really sell that it's the wierdo on the kayak with the creepy apartment who's going to knock off the brigadeer. That actor is pretty unmistakable and I know he's in several other episodes (From Moscow to Maui and Compulsion at least) so I got a kick out of that as I enjoy spotting repeat bit actors. I do have one small complaint though. Did anyone else find the two CIA/FBI agents (can't remember which they were) to be poorly cast? The one guys complaining about being hungry the whole episode and the other guy was fairly ridiculous and reminded me of the actor from Perfect Strangers lol. I just thought they could have had better more serious actors/tones that would have made them more believeable governement cops/agents. Nevertheless, a good solid episode!
I remember that nudge, wasn't that so Thomas would sit up (like a grownup I always took it) without his one leg crossed?

I think so, it was a pretty hilarious scene! Its funny how extremely hard Higgins was on Magnum in the first season and even the second. He sure seemed to loosen up and treat him with more respect as time passed, although they certainly were very different and still had their issues (ie Paper War, a classic!). I guess it's because they formed a friendship as time passed and Higgins gained a respect for Magnum and vice versa. To me it was great that they did see things very differently and didn't always get along, it added a fun and sometimes very funny theme to the show.

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Shermy wrote:To top it off, there's another classic ending with Magnum returning T.C.'s dinner jacket...then quickly fleeing to avoid his wrath! :lol:
I was (re)watching this again the other day and noticed that at that point when TC yells after Thomas he yells "Magnum!!".

Now, I've heard many times before in previous watchings but it hit me, I think that's the only time in the show where Rick or TC call him "Magnum" instead of "Thomas".

Another one of those Season One finding the footing things . . .
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I'm apparently in the not-so-vast minority here but this is one of my least fave episodes of the first season. The main reason I watch movies is for entertainment and I've come to enjoy MPI for a variety of reasons including that of entertainment but this episode irritated me more than entertained (and correspondingly, the entertaining portions seemed throwaways) - just like Magnum's irritation at the 'No Need to Know' that kept being bandied about. I could feel his frustration, which, I suppose, can be viewed as a success for this one. Am not a fan of government - the dishonest power hungry, controlling politicians who send out 'our boys' to kill or be killed. The ending of the story mad sense to me and I could feel what she was feeling so maybe the episode hit too close to my personal feelings for me to enjoy it. For instance, while the Brigadier accosted our protagonist in the evening outside, I kept thinking of all the atrocities he likely committed in his field of work and position rather than any medals he'd have been decorated with during the course of his duty. On a positive note, maybe it'd grow on me greatly if I watched it repeatedly.

Overall, I felt this began a set of nearly 25% of the campaign which I didn't give high marks to. This got just a 5 out of 10 from moi.

In conclusion, I think it's an episode best not for me.

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#75 Post by Rocket »

Not really a flub but when Magnum pulls into the driveway at around the 17:20 mark, you can see a large rock in the driveway by the front tire of the Ferrari. I think that is his mark for the Ferrari. Seems too big when compared to other rocks in the drive. I noted another rock in another episode and Magnum stops the Ferrari with the driver side front tire, right next to it as well. May be nothing, but seems like a mark to me.

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