Hawaii Five-O: Any Fans?

[Pahonu]

You two may not far off. One of my colleagues calls me Cliff Claven, but he doesn’t know the whole story. I think a little explanation might be in order.

I don’t reveal it to many people besides very close friends and some family, but I have the strange ability to recall most of what I see or read on the page. This is true to the level that I can often picture if I saw it on the top or bottom, left or right of a page. I don’t know what to call it, but I recall things visually like that. Comes in handy as a history teacher! Alternately, if you tell me something, good luck on expecting me to remember. My wife, after almost 25 years of marriage knows to write down anything she wants from the market or a chore she needs done. I don’t know if Cliff remembered things that way, but I do, and usually can recall the publication I read it in as well, though I often skip those details to appear less weird.

Ivan, I saw that you wrote how well you remember watching certain episodes of H5-O or other shows and connect them to certain other experiences from that day. Perhaps it’s a bit like that. I have a college roommate who has a freaky recall for dates. He’s texted me many times over the years such things as, “Hey buddy, 27 years ago today, you and I were bodysurfing at the Wedge in Balboa! I often remember the event, but have no clue about when it was. My wife seems to remember almost anything set to music going back to her early childhood. Her knowledge of song lyrics is uncanny. The funny part is that if she learned them wrong originally, which happens for many, that’s what she still remembers even though she now knows that the lyrics are nonsensical.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

You two may not far off. One of my colleagues calls me Cliff Claven, but he doesn’t know the whole story. I think a little explanation might be in order.

I don’t reveal it to many people besides very close friends and some family, but I have the strange ability to recall most of what I see or read on the page. This is true to the level that I can often picture if I saw it on the top or bottom, left or right of a page. I don’t know what to call it, but I recall things visually like that. Comes in handy as a history teacher! Alternately, if you tell me something, good luck on expecting me to remember. My wife, after almost 25 years of marriage knows to write down anything she wants from the market or a chore she needs done. I don’t know if Cliff remembered things that way, but I do, and usually can recall the publication I read it in as well, though I often skip those details to appear less weird.

Ivan, I saw that you wrote how well you remember watching certain episodes of H5-O or other shows and connect them to certain other experiences from that day. Perhaps it’s a bit like that. I have a college roommate who has a freaky recall for dates. He’s texted me many times over the years such things as, “Hey buddy, 27 years ago today, you and I were bodysurfing at the Wedge in Balboa! I often remember the event, but have no clue about when it was. My wife seems to remember almost anything set to music going back to her early childhood. Her knowledge of song lyrics is uncanny. The funny part is that if she learned them wrong originally, which happens for many, that’s what she still remembers even though she now knows that the lyrics are nonsensical.

Yes I can sort of understand what you're saying. I can remember distinct things so clearly after many, many years but can't remember something from yesterday.

You're making me re-post what I posted on the ROCKFORD FILES thread. Man, we're derailing this once nice little quiet Five-O thread. But here goes...

I remember distinctly that in the fall of 1999 on my first day of college (which happened to be an afternoon class) I watched "The Dark and Bloody Ground" that morning for the very first time (which remains one of my favorites to this day!) and then that was followed by 2 FIVE-O episodes - "Frozen Assets" and "My Friend, the Enemy" (both from season 10 and both of which I had already seen a few years earlier). I also recall that either the day before or the day after I had seen the BONANZA episode "Second Chance" which I really liked! Why should I remember this stuff? I don't know. I just do.

Or that in the summer of 1997 immediately after the last day of school (I had just finished 10th grade) the next morning the 2 FIVE-O episodes I saw were "To Die in Paradise" and "Blood Money is Hard to Wash" from season 9. And then I kept watching the remainder of seasons 9, 10, 11, and 12 before they went back to the pilot episode "Cocoon" but then for some reason skipped season 1 and went directly into season 2 and then season 3... and then it was back to school time for me. My sister used to think and now my wife thinks I'm weird for remembering things like this. But it's like you said - it's all about a time and place. Something about those times felt special to me. Because I can't remember what I saw last week or the week before.

P.S. Honestly though we're all a bunch of Cliff Clavens on here! Talking about TV minutiae and actors that no one knows if you were to mention them on the street. William Windom, Simon Oakland, Andrew Duggan, Peter Strauss, Charles Cioffi, Don Stroud, John Beck, etc. You'd get a bunch of blank stares - that's what you'd get. Morton Stevens, Richard Shores, Don Ray, Michael O'Herlihy, Charles Dubin, etc. Who???? That's right. We're just a bunch of geeks!

[Pahonu]

You two may not far off. One of my colleagues calls me Cliff Claven, but he doesn’t know the whole story. I think a little explanation might be in order.

I don’t reveal it to many people besides very close friends and some family, but I have the strange ability to recall most of what I see or read on the page. This is true to the level that I can often picture if I saw it on the top or bottom, left or right of a page. I don’t know what to call it, but I recall things visually like that. Comes in handy as a history teacher! Alternately, if you tell me something, good luck on expecting me to remember. My wife, after almost 25 years of marriage knows to write down anything she wants from the market or a chore she needs done. I don’t know if Cliff remembered things that way, but I do, and usually can recall the publication I read it in as well, though I often skip those details to appear less weird.

Ivan, I saw that you wrote how well you remember watching certain episodes of H5-O or other shows and connect them to certain other experiences from that day. Perhaps it’s a bit like that. I have a college roommate who has a freaky recall for dates. He’s texted me many times over the years such things as, “Hey buddy, 27 years ago today, you and I were bodysurfing at the Wedge in Balboa! I often remember the event, but have no clue about when it was. My wife seems to remember almost anything set to music going back to her early childhood. Her knowledge of song lyrics is uncanny. The funny part is that if she learned them wrong originally, which happens for many, that’s what she still remembers even though she now knows that the lyrics are nonsensical.

Yes I can sort of understand what you're saying. I can remember distinct things so clearly after many, many years but can't remember something from yesterday.

You're making me re-post what I posted on the ROCKFORD FILES thread. Man, we're derailing this once nice little quiet Five-O thread. But here goes...

I remember distinctly that in the fall of 1999 on my first day of college (which happened to be an afternoon class) I watched "The Dark and Bloody Ground" that morning for the very first time (which remains one of my favorites to this day!) and then that was followed by 2 FIVE-O episodes - "Frozen Assets" and "My Friend, the Enemy" (both from season 10 and both of which I had already seen a few years earlier). I also recall that either the day before or the day after I had seen the BONANZA episode "Second Chance" which I really liked! Why should I remember this stuff? I don't know. I just do.

Or that in the summer of 1997 immediately after the last day of school (I had just finished 10th grade) the next morning the 2 FIVE-O episodes I saw were "To Die in Paradise" and "Blood Money is Hard to Wash" from season 9. And then I kept watching the remainder of seasons 9, 10, 11, and 12 before they went back to the pilot episode "Cocoon" but then for some reason skipped season 1 and went directly into season 2 and then season 3... and then it was back to school time for me. My sister used to think and now my wife thinks I'm weird for remembering things like this. But it's like you said - it's all about a time and place. Something about those times felt special to me. Because I can't remember what I saw last week or the week before.

P.S. Honestly though we're all a bunch of Cliff Clavens on here! Talking about TV minutiae and actors that no one knows if you were to mention them on the street. William Windom, Simon Oakland, Andrew Duggan, Peter Strauss, Charles Cioffi, Don Stroud, John Beck, etc. You'd get a bunch of blank stares - that's what you'd get. Morton Stevens, Richard Shores, Don Ray, Michael O'Herlihy, Charles Dubin, etc. Who???? That's right. We're just a bunch of geeks!

That’s the post of yours that I read and likely why I remembered it. I also often struggle to recall what I had for dinner last night or other similar routine experiences, but if I read what we ate it would be locked in. I have to say that mine is not limited to entertainment details. It’s pretty much anything I read, I remember quite distinctly from a visual recall of the page. This includes information I may not fully understand, perhaps some scientific concept or even simple popular culture information. TV and film visuals don’t actually stick with me like that, perhaps because they are moving, but if I read about the TV show or film, I can visually remember what was on the page. It’s by no means eidetic memory, but it’s pretty accurate. I’ve surprised more than a few colleagues over the years when I reference a text we have utilized by describing where the information is located on the page and what it explained. On occasion someone has pulled out the resource and found the information was where and what I said it was. I usually explain at that point. The recall gets slower as time passes, but I can usually pull it up.

[T.Q.]

I don’t remember what I had for supper yesterday.

I remember people and events vividly from my teens.

I forget someone I met last month’s name.

I remember some random name of a guy I met once 20 years ago.

I forget everything I learned in high school.

I remember a lot of medical, political, historical stuff I’ve read.

I forgot which episode Magnum ate fig newtons.

I remembered what he was wearing in the scene.

My memory is all over the place.



I forget what this post was about.

[Pahonu]

I don’t remember what I had for supper yesterday.

I remember people and events vividly from my teens.

I forget someone I met last month’s name.

I remember some random name of a guy I met once 20 years ago.

I forget everything I learned in high school.

I remember a lot of medical, political, historical stuff I’ve read.

I forgot which episode Magnum ate fig newtons.

I remember what he was wearing in the scene.

My memory is all over the place.



I forget what this post was about.

Nice conclusion!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

You two may not far off. One of my colleagues calls me Cliff Claven, but he doesn’t know the whole story. I think a little explanation might be in order.

I don’t reveal it to many people besides very close friends and some family, but I have the strange ability to recall most of what I see or read on the page. This is true to the level that I can often picture if I saw it on the top or bottom, left or right of a page. I don’t know what to call it, but I recall things visually like that. Comes in handy as a history teacher! Alternately, if you tell me something, good luck on expecting me to remember. My wife, after almost 25 years of marriage knows to write down anything she wants from the market or a chore she needs done. I don’t know if Cliff remembered things that way, but I do, and usually can recall the publication I read it in as well, though I often skip those details to appear less weird.

Ivan, I saw that you wrote how well you remember watching certain episodes of H5-O or other shows and connect them to certain other experiences from that day. Perhaps it’s a bit like that. I have a college roommate who has a freaky recall for dates. He’s texted me many times over the years such things as, “Hey buddy, 27 years ago today, you and I were bodysurfing at the Wedge in Balboa! I often remember the event, but have no clue about when it was. My wife seems to remember almost anything set to music going back to her early childhood. Her knowledge of song lyrics is uncanny. The funny part is that if she learned them wrong originally, which happens for many, that’s what she still remembers even though she now knows that the lyrics are nonsensical.

Yes I can sort of understand what you're saying. I can remember distinct things so clearly after many, many years but can't remember something from yesterday.

You're making me re-post what I posted on the ROCKFORD FILES thread. Man, we're derailing this once nice little quiet Five-O thread. But here goes...

I remember distinctly that in the fall of 1999 on my first day of college (which happened to be an afternoon class) I watched "The Dark and Bloody Ground" that morning for the very first time (which remains one of my favorites to this day!) and then that was followed by 2 FIVE-O episodes - "Frozen Assets" and "My Friend, the Enemy" (both from season 10 and both of which I had already seen a few years earlier). I also recall that either the day before or the day after I had seen the BONANZA episode "Second Chance" which I really liked! Why should I remember this stuff? I don't know. I just do.

Or that in the summer of 1997 immediately after the last day of school (I had just finished 10th grade) the next morning the 2 FIVE-O episodes I saw were "To Die in Paradise" and "Blood Money is Hard to Wash" from season 9. And then I kept watching the remainder of seasons 9, 10, 11, and 12 before they went back to the pilot episode "Cocoon" but then for some reason skipped season 1 and went directly into season 2 and then season 3... and then it was back to school time for me. My sister used to think and now my wife thinks I'm weird for remembering things like this. But it's like you said - it's all about a time and place. Something about those times felt special to me. Because I can't remember what I saw last week or the week before.

P.S. Honestly though we're all a bunch of Cliff Clavens on here! Talking about TV minutiae and actors that no one knows if you were to mention them on the street. William Windom, Simon Oakland, Andrew Duggan, Peter Strauss, Charles Cioffi, Don Stroud, John Beck, etc. You'd get a bunch of blank stares - that's what you'd get. Morton Stevens, Richard Shores, Don Ray, Michael O'Herlihy, Charles Dubin, etc. Who???? That's right. We're just a bunch of geeks!

That’s the post of yours that I read and likely why I remembered it. I also often struggle to recall what I had for dinner last night or other similar routine experiences, but if I read what we ate it would be locked in. I have to say that mine is not limited to entertainment details. It’s pretty much anything I read, I remember quite distinctly from a visual recall of the page. This includes information I may not fully understand, perhaps some scientific concept or even simple popular culture information. TV and film visuals don’t actually stick with me like that, perhaps because they are moving, but if I read about the TV show or film, I can visually remember what was on the page. It’s by no means eidetic memory, but it’s pretty accurate. I’ve surprised more than a few colleagues over the years when I reference a text we have utilized by describing where the information is located on the page and what it explained. On occasion someone has pulled out the resource and found the information was where and what I said it was. I usually explain at that point. The recall gets slower as time passes, but I can usually pull it up.

What you describe is definitely more unique than what I have. Sounds almost like photographic memory. Like Nehemiah Persoff the Eastern Bloc spy in that Five-O episode "Will the Real Mr. Winkler Please Die?" I can definitely remember things better if I read it or write it down. That's probably true with most folks. They even tell you in school to write something down a few times to better remember it. But you're definitely unique with your photogenic memory, as Kono once said.

[T.Q.]

Ivan,

Did you ever check out Capt. Ohano's voice?

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Ivan,

Did you ever check out Capt. Ohano's voice?

Actually most of my Five-O along with other DVDs is still packed in a box after we moved to our new house... 2 years ago! I'm actually reorganizing and making shelf space for my DVDs. Gotta unbox them pretty soon.

[T.Q.]

Ivan,

Did you ever check out Capt. Ohano's voice?

Actually most of my Five-O along with other DVDs is still packed in a box after we moved to our new house... 2 years ago! I'm actually reorganizing and making shelf space for my DVDs. Gotta unbox them pretty soon.

youtu.be/u9Bc--Pk0qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Bc--Pk0qo

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

Ivan,

Did you ever check out Capt. Ohano's voice?

Actually most of my Five-O along with other DVDs is still packed in a box after we moved to our new house... 2 years ago! I'm actually reorganizing and making shelf space for my DVDs. Gotta unbox them pretty soon.

youtu.be/u9Bc--Pk0qo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Bc--Pk0qo

Hmmm... good question. It sounds kinda like Jack Soo (at least the deep voice part). But then I'm sure he wasn't the only Asian actor with a deep voice. So it's difficult to tell with any kind of certainty. Could be a coincidence of 2 actors having similar voices. Also I can't help but wonder why they would need to dub this guy's voice and if they did why not use any number of local Asian actors living on the island. As far as I know Soo didn't live in Hawaii. Unless the dubbing was done in Hollywood once they got the finished product over there from Hawaii and Soo was available right there.

Anyway, yeah it's hard to tell. Sounds like him but I can't say it's a 100% match either.

[T.Q.]

It's a nothing thing.

Just a silly 'did you notice" question that snowballs into my spending way too much time on it.

On to my next episode.

Weights are calling.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

It's a nothing thing.

Just a silly 'did you notice" question that snowballs into my spending way too much time on it.

On to my next episode.

Weights are calling.

It really does sound like Jack Soo the more I listen to it. But something about the voice is still a bit off. Maybe the words are enunciated a bit too clearly whereas I expect Soo to slur his words a bit more. I don't know.

[T.Q.]

The Two-Faced Corpse

Not sure about this one.

Didn't think it was that good.

Really dragged first 1/4, thought the sting was clever but the pay-off at the end wasn't great.

I liked the back-and-forth between the Feds and Five-0. And McGarrett and Paul Hamilton was entertaining.

Epic guest stars, Jessica Walter and Sam Elliott, took me a while to recognize them. Another embarrassing TQ moment. They come fast and furious sometimes.

And Abe as Abe was cool.

MPI: Alan Fudge and Jessica Walter

[Little Garwood]

The Two-Faced Corpse (S7 E8)

The Two-Faced Corpse is my favorite S7 episode. The combination of the cast, the music by Don B. Ray, and the beautifully vivid color cinematography brings it all together for me. There is something about this episode in that it evocatively “brings me back” to the ‘70s I remember, which adds to my enjoyment for this episode.

There's a stunningly gorgeous shot of a blue, cloudless sky and green areca palms about 6 minutes into the episode, and the beachfront estate where the foxy Carla Crystal lives is a splendid digs, indeed.

Paul Hamilton, the FBI agent played by Alan Fudge--is a character I would have liked to have seen in a recurring role. The ongoing “let’s have lunch” banter between McGarrett and Hamilton was amusing to me; Hamilton even gets the episode’s last word.

I found the repeated use of the names Julio Bocher and Howard Crystal funny; they would make for some good cat names!

This is the episode where McGarrett has his arm bandaged over his shirt!

There are some great lines here. Carla Crystal, in her conversation with McGarrett, states “There hasn't been anything between us for over a year”—meaning nothing physical— because of Howard’s steroid use. Carla asks McG if he “Know how that is?”, to which Steve responds, “I’ve heard.” Hilarious!

Danno gets a good (off camera) line about onetime football enthusiast and Syndicate man Julio Bocher/Howard Crystal: “I’d want to be a good ‘open field runner’ if the Syndicate was after me.” I like the Five-0 team’s office brainstorming sessions in this one, with Ben talking about his bad old football days, which amuses the crew.

Abe Vigoda cashes in on his “Tessio” Godfather credentials and plays Syndicate big shot Abe Kemper.

The Five-0 team once again eats Chinese takeout; this always has me craving Chinese food, which I almost never eat.

Carla Crystal’s Mustang is probably one of the nicer cars of the “Malaise Era.” I used to have a ‘75 Mustang and it was a lemon; don’t even get me started on my 1970 Pontiac LeMans!

Sure, there are flaws in the narrative, as it’s obviously Sam Elliott’s distinctive voice at the beginning when we see Howard Crystal’s murder. However, I don’t watch TV shows just for the plot lines, which can only surprise the viewer once. I like the episode for entirely different reasons.

My Rating: 10/10

I’ll bump my review, lest it be buried under talk of T.Q’s weight-lifting regimen and everyone rattling on with their On the Spectrum memories.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

The Two-Faced Corpse

Not sure about this one.

Didn't think it was that good.

Really dragged first 1/4, thought the sting was clever but the pay-off at the end wasn't great.

I liked the back-and-forth between the Feds and Five-0. And McGarrett and Paul Hamilton was entertaining.

Epic guest stars, Jessica Walter and Sam Elliott, took me a while to recognize them. Another embarrassing TQ moment. They come fast and furious sometimes.

And Abe as Abe was cool.

MPI: Alan Fudge and Jessica Walter

Yep, this one is definitely bottom 3 material for the season for me, joining "Steal Now -- Pay Later" and another one later in the season. The plot is convoluted with the whole Julio Bocher/Howard Crystal thing and quite frankly it's all pretty dull. I do like the sting at the end with Jelko/Jelly Roll ( ) and whatever the other undercover dude's name was. That part was good in trying to entrap Jess Walter and Sam Elliott. Also the Don Ray score during those scenes was very good, reused from earlier episodes. Abe Vigoda and his dogs were good too. But other than that I have nothing positive to say about this episode. Just never cared for it.