Hawaii Five-O: Any Fans?

[T.Q.]

I find both KNIGHT RIDER and THE A-TEAM still very rewatchable even today.

How you got time for that and not MAGNUM PI first run?

[Pahonu]

A Shallow Grave

First reaction (first 30 minutes) was thinking "Noooo, not another silly supernatural episode".

So much was lame.

It was somewhat saved by the explanation and last 15 minutes once they found out he was adopted and that his ESP (or whatever) were actual memories.

Not a very good episode though. Fair rating: 5.5/10

MPI: Linda Ryan, John Ireland, Patricia Herman, Bill Edwards, Tommy Fujiwara, Madeline Press, Jo Pruden, David Palmer, Wow Lots

** I still remember one summer sometime in the mid-90s running into the house (after playing with friends outside) at around 1:30pm and turning on our local FOX channel (it's channel 29 here in Philly) to catch an episode of Five-O, as was my daily custom. I think MPI followed at 2:30 but I wasn't into the show back then. Anyway, you can imagine my horror when instead of that Hawaiian opening wave rolling across my screen... I get "Spaaace... the final frontier". And for the rest of that summer they were showing reruns of STAR TREK instead. Oh I was pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hated anything STAR TREK related and still do. What a bunch of malarkey!

Hey Ivan, your introduction to Hawaii Five-O was as a child? My introduction to both Magnum pi and The Rockford Files was as a child too, though a decade earlier. Rockford was as reruns like you saw H5-O, and MPI was as it aired live. I think those experiences have a profound nostalgic effect. I would have called MPI my favorite show when I was 10-15 years old, but I grew to love Rockford more as I matured. I didn’t watch much H5-O until I saw some reruns in college, and I enjoy it, it’s just not the perfect show you love to claim.

I find it fascinating that such shows can have such a nostalgic hold on us. I think the mass airing of older series in the last couple of decades and now streaming has made me rethink some of my favorites from the past. As I have rewatched so many shows from my childhood, some have aged very well surprisingly, others very poorly. I know you have mentioned The A-Team and Knight Rider on the forum. I watched them live in the day, but find them almost unwatchable today. H5-O holds up much better as does Rockford, and Harry-O, a series I didn’t find until about 15 years ago. It’s a funny thing, nostalgia.

I find both KNIGHT RIDER and THE A-TEAM still very rewatchable even today. Ok, maybe THE A-TEAM more than KNIGHT RIDER. The former was wittier and better acted by its leads. Lots of funny zingers in there and I still love to see those cars and trucks flipping through the air. Some great stunt work there!

But other shows that I loved watching during my early teen years in the 90s (during their first run) like RENEGADE (with Lorenzo Lamas) or KUNG FU: THE LEGEND CONTINUES have not aged well at all. RENEGADE was a syndicated show produced by Stephen J. Cannell. Back then it was probably my favorite out of Cannell's stable of shows but today I'd watch just about any other Cannell show over that one. It's interesting how shows affect us. KNIGHT RIDER is cheesy but there's still some kind of magic there. RENEGADE is cheesy but has no magic. Just a lousy actor playing a biker on his Harley. But I think the decade/time-frame also helps. KNIGHT RIDER is from that early 80s period which I really love. Whereas RENEGADE is from the early-to-mid 90s which is a time period that I watch almost nothing from. I did as a kid. But as a grown-up that time period just has zero appeal for me. Lots of syndicated actions shows shot in Canada which I loved as a kid. But not today. Ok, maybe STREET JUSTICE (with Carl Weathers) and COBRA (with Michael Dudikoff) are exceptions. But even those I can only take in small doses. But you've probably never even heard of those.

Your right, I don’t know either of those last two shows you mentioned. I remember watching the original Kung Fu as reruns with my father and there’s some nostalgia there. He was a fan of martial arts movies in general, and I saw many in the 70’s as he controlled the only TV in the house. I watched several shows from the 60’s and early 70’s because he watched the afternoon reruns at 5:00 and 6:00, so I did too. I’m thinking, The Wild, Wild West, The Streets of San Francisco, Barretta, and the above mentioned Kung Fu. No H5-O somehow.

I also remember watching the A-Team when it premiered after the Super Bowl, whatever year that was, but I DVR’d a few episodes several years ago and the magic was gone. I also DVR’d a Knight Rider episode, but particularly because it had been filmed near where I grew up. I remember riding my bike with my cousin to the place they were filming and being so impressed by KITT. I was maybe 13 at the time. The episode didn’t hold up well, but it was nostalgic to see it after 30+ years. Maybe this somehow fits in with the couple of seasons I worked on Baywatch. I DVR’d them during the lockdown and they were fun to reminisce about, but they were not good television!

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

I find both KNIGHT RIDER and THE A-TEAM still very rewatchable even today.

How you got time for that and not MAGNUM PI first run?

Oh I don't have time for them either. I haven't seen either show anytime recently. But I do know if I were to sit down and watch them right now I'd have a lot of fun with them. As I would with MPI or Five-O.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

A Shallow Grave

First reaction (first 30 minutes) was thinking "Noooo, not another silly supernatural episode".

So much was lame.

It was somewhat saved by the explanation and last 15 minutes once they found out he was adopted and that his ESP (or whatever) were actual memories.

Not a very good episode though. Fair rating: 5.5/10

MPI: Linda Ryan, John Ireland, Patricia Herman, Bill Edwards, Tommy Fujiwara, Madeline Press, Jo Pruden, David Palmer, Wow Lots

** I still remember one summer sometime in the mid-90s running into the house (after playing with friends outside) at around 1:30pm and turning on our local FOX channel (it's channel 29 here in Philly) to catch an episode of Five-O, as was my daily custom. I think MPI followed at 2:30 but I wasn't into the show back then. Anyway, you can imagine my horror when instead of that Hawaiian opening wave rolling across my screen... I get "Spaaace... the final frontier". And for the rest of that summer they were showing reruns of STAR TREK instead. Oh I was pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hated anything STAR TREK related and still do. What a bunch of malarkey!

Hey Ivan, your introduction to Hawaii Five-O was as a child? My introduction to both Magnum pi and The Rockford Files was as a child too, though a decade earlier. Rockford was as reruns like you saw H5-O, and MPI was as it aired live. I think those experiences have a profound nostalgic effect. I would have called MPI my favorite show when I was 10-15 years old, but I grew to love Rockford more as I matured. I didn’t watch much H5-O until I saw some reruns in college, and I enjoy it, it’s just not the perfect show you love to claim.

I find it fascinating that such shows can have such a nostalgic hold on us. I think the mass airing of older series in the last couple of decades and now streaming has made me rethink some of my favorites from the past. As I have rewatched so many shows from my childhood, some have aged very well surprisingly, others very poorly. I know you have mentioned The A-Team and Knight Rider on the forum. I watched them live in the day, but find them almost unwatchable today. H5-O holds up much better as does Rockford, and Harry-O, a series I didn’t find until about 15 years ago. It’s a funny thing, nostalgia.

I find both KNIGHT RIDER and THE A-TEAM still very rewatchable even today. Ok, maybe THE A-TEAM more than KNIGHT RIDER. The former was wittier and better acted by its leads. Lots of funny zingers in there and I still love to see those cars and trucks flipping through the air. Some great stunt work there!

But other shows that I loved watching during my early teen years in the 90s (during their first run) like RENEGADE (with Lorenzo Lamas) or KUNG FU: THE LEGEND CONTINUES have not aged well at all. RENEGADE was a syndicated show produced by Stephen J. Cannell. Back then it was probably my favorite out of Cannell's stable of shows but today I'd watch just about any other Cannell show over that one. It's interesting how shows affect us. KNIGHT RIDER is cheesy but there's still some kind of magic there. RENEGADE is cheesy but has no magic. Just a lousy actor playing a biker on his Harley. But I think the decade/time-frame also helps. KNIGHT RIDER is from that early 80s period which I really love. Whereas RENEGADE is from the early-to-mid 90s which is a time period that I watch almost nothing from. I did as a kid. But as a grown-up that time period just has zero appeal for me. Lots of syndicated actions shows shot in Canada which I loved as a kid. But not today. Ok, maybe STREET JUSTICE (with Carl Weathers) and COBRA (with Michael Dudikoff) are exceptions. But even those I can only take in small doses. But you've probably never even heard of those.

Your right, I don’t know either of those last two shows you mentioned. I remember watching the original Kung Fu as reruns with my father and there’s some nostalgia there. He was a fan of martial arts movies in general, and I saw many in the 70’s as he controlled the only TV in the house. I watched several shows from the 60’s and early 70’s because he watched the afternoon reruns at 5:00 and 6:00, so I did too. I’m thinking, The Wild, Wild West, The Streets of San Francisco, Barretta, and the above mentioned Kung Fu. No H5-O somehow.

I also remember watching the A-Team when it premiered after the Super Bowl, whatever year that was, but I DVR’d a few episodes several years ago and the magic was gone. I also DVR’d a Knight Rider episode, but particularly because it had been filmed near where I grew up. I remember riding my bike with my cousin to the place they were filming and being so impressed by KITT. I was maybe 13 at the time. The episode didn’t hold up well, but it was nostalgic to see it after 30+ years. Maybe this somehow fits in with the couple of seasons I worked on Baywatch. I DVR’d them during the lockdown and they were fun to reminisce about, but they were not good television!

Yep, THE A-TEAM pilot movie ("Mexican Slayride") premiered after the Super Bowl in January 1983, so its first season was only half a season. It was a smash-hit from the get-go, from what I understand. I'm sure capturing that Super Bowl audience had a lot to do with its instant success. Probably many people were talking about it the next day at work. I wouldn't know... I was only 2 at the time and living in Ukraine. You were lucky to be there and see it for yourself during its debut!

As for KNIGHT RIDER it could be of varying quality, depending on the episode. But some episodes still hold great nostalgic magic for me and actually have some genuine suspense. The music score (first by Stu Phillips and then by Don Peake) certainly helped A LOT!! Those synths are such an integral part of the show!! KNIGHT RIDER did it first, before Sylvester Levay did it with AIRWOLF or Jan Hammer with MIAMI VICE. Oh, and I also have to say that I think the KR pilot "Knight of the Phoenix" is one of the best TV pilots of all time. I really do think it's a legitimately great piece of television! Same with the AIRWOLF pilot - "Shadow of the Hawke". Neither show was able to achieve that kind of greatness again, unfortunately.

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

So the H&I (Heroes and Icons) network shows FIVE-O every Friday, 5 episodes in a row, starting at noon. Right now they're showing season 5. So far they've shown every episode from the previous 4 seasons. But today I checked the schedule and they skipped "Pig in a Blanket" and "Chain of Events". I was confused at first and then it dawned on me that "Pig in a Blanket" has Danno shooting an unarmed teen. I guess in today's climate showing something like this is a no-no?? Never mind that it's an episode from 1972 or that the person getting shot by a cop isn't even a black person. UNBELIEVABLE!! Are we really gonna start censoring things like this?? Because someone might get offended. Does that mean every cop show episode from the past where a cop shoots someone by mistake is to be yanked by the networks?? Crazy.

I'm still trying to figure out why "Chain of Events" was skipped. That one dealt with venereal diseases and a political candidate who gave venereal disease to both his wife and a girl (underage?) that he was seeing on the side. So is that too controversial too??? Oh my... Just look at the cable shows that people watch today!! That's acceptable but something from 70s network TV isn't??? Something is seriously screwed up somewhere.

[Pahonu]

So the H&I (Heroes and Icons) network shows FIVE-O every Friday, 5 episodes in a row, starting at noon. Right now they're showing season 5. So far they've shown every episode from the previous 4 seasons. But today I checked the schedule and they skipped "Pig in a Blanket" and "Chain of Events". I was confused at first and then it dawned on me that "Pig in a Blanket" has Danno shooting an unarmed teen. I guess in today's climate showing something like this is a no-no?? Never mind that it's an episode from 1972 or that the person getting shot by a cop isn't even a black person. UNBELIEVABLE!! Are we really gonna start censoring things like this?? Because someone might get offended. Does that mean every cop show episode from the past where a cop shoots someone by mistake is to be yanked by the networks?? Crazy.

I'm still trying to figure out why "Chain of Events" was skipped. That one dealt with venereal diseases and a political candidate who gave venereal disease to both his wife and a girl (underage?) that he was seeing on the side. So is that too controversial too??? Oh my... Just look at the cable shows that people watch today!! That's acceptable but something from 70s network TV isn't??? Something is seriously screwed up somewhere.

Hey Ivan, I’m not sure why you find it so unbelievable… all caps even. Different networks have different policies about what they will show or not show. These programming decisions typically are made based on audience data and the origin of the advertising money. I wouldn’t rush to judgement as some kind of significant shift. It’s one network’s decision, that you clearly don’t agree with. I don’t know much about H&I but I did watch Cloth of Gold last week on it.

Some network polices exclude entire series and genres from consideration. It’s an obvious example, but I doubt The Hallmark Channel will be showing Breaking Bad anytime soon! The Breaking Bad audience also isn’t likely to purchase the denture cream advertised on Hallmark either. Different networks program for different audiences. As independent businesses, it’s their call ultimately. It’s how they make a profit.

Hey, you can always start your own network and show every H5-O episode on a continuous loop! Of course, you probably couldn’t get a decent copy of “Bored, She Hung Herself” to air. CBS made that programming decision long ago.

[T.Q.]

Pahonu mentioning "Bored, She Hung Herself" prompted me to watch it during lunch.

So... went back in time with my flux capacitor to Jan 7, 1970.

Bored, She Hung Herself

Shouldn't it be "hanged"?

Nothing special episode.

Very creepy hanging scenes at the beginning (and during the Father/Don scene) .

If a kid really copied it and died I understand them shelving the episode. Was a bit disturbing.

After the Dad tried to convince McGarrett he had a confession from Don, they leapt pretty quickly back to the neighbour and a real confession.

"I want to live" ending, and the beach scene, was pretty rushed and a bit cheesy.

MPI: Patricia Herman, Herman Wedemeyer, Harry Endo

[Pahonu]

Pahonu mentioning "Bored, She Hung Herself" prompted me to watch it during lunch.

So... went back in time with my flux capacitor to Jan 7, 1970.

Bored, She Hung Herself

Shouldn't it be "hanged"?

Nothing special episode.

Very creepy hanging scenes at the beginning (and during the Father/Don scene) .

If a kid really copied it and died I understand them shelving the episode. Was a bit disturbing.

After the Dad tried to convince McGarrett he had a confession from Don, they leapt pretty quickly back to the neighbour and a real confession.

"I want to live" ending, and the beach scene, was pretty rushed and a bit cheesy.

MPI: Patricia Herman, Herman Wedemeyer, Harry Endo

I watched it for the first time several years ago and had a similar reaction. It was nothing special overall but the hanging scenes were disturbing.

[Mr. Mike]

The title of that episode does not make any sense. "Hung" is quite OK, but Wanda is hardly "bored." Note there is no comma after the first word.

https://fiveohomepage.com/season2/2-16-pix/2-16-4.jpg

[Pahonu]

The title of that episode does not make any sense. "Hung" is quite OK, but Wanda is hardly "bored." Note there is no comma after the first word.

https://fiveohomepage.com/season2/2-16-pix/2-16-4.jpg

I don’t remember much having only seen it once, but grammatically, I think it should have a comma in the title.

[T.Q.]

The title of that episode does not make any sense. "Hung" is quite OK, but Wanda is hardly "bored." Note there is no comma after the first word.

https://fiveohomepage.com/season2/2-16-pix/2-16-4.jpg

I don’t remember much having only seen it once, but grammatically, I think it should have a comma in the title.

The correct title should be Bored! She Hanged Her Crazy Self!!!

[Chris109]

The title of that episode does not make any sense. "Hung" is quite OK, but Wanda is hardly "bored." Note there is no comma after the first word.

https://fiveohomepage.com/season2/2-16-pix/2-16-4.jpg

I don’t remember much having only seen it once, but grammatically, I think it should have a comma in the title.

The correct title should be Bored! She Hanged Her Crazy Self!!!

[Pahonu]

Hanged is the correct past tense for the use of the word as capital punishment. The “crazy” is accurate but not up for grammatical debate, nor the multiple exclamation points. Purely artistic

[ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan)]

So the H&I (Heroes and Icons) network shows FIVE-O every Friday, 5 episodes in a row, starting at noon. Right now they're showing season 5. So far they've shown every episode from the previous 4 seasons. But today I checked the schedule and they skipped "Pig in a Blanket" and "Chain of Events". I was confused at first and then it dawned on me that "Pig in a Blanket" has Danno shooting an unarmed teen. I guess in today's climate showing something like this is a no-no?? Never mind that it's an episode from 1972 or that the person getting shot by a cop isn't even a black person. UNBELIEVABLE!! Are we really gonna start censoring things like this?? Because someone might get offended. Does that mean every cop show episode from the past where a cop shoots someone by mistake is to be yanked by the networks?? Crazy.

I'm still trying to figure out why "Chain of Events" was skipped. That one dealt with venereal diseases and a political candidate who gave venereal disease to both his wife and a girl (underage?) that he was seeing on the side. So is that too controversial too??? Oh my... Just look at the cable shows that people watch today!! That's acceptable but something from 70s network TV isn't??? Something is seriously screwed up somewhere.

Hey Ivan, I’m not sure why you find it so unbelievable… all caps even. Different networks have different policies about what they will show or not show. These programming decisions typically are made based on audience data and the origin of the advertising money. I wouldn’t rush to judgement as some kind of significant shift. It’s one network’s decision, that you clearly don’t agree with. I don’t know much about H&I but I did watch Cloth of Gold last week on it.

Some network polices exclude entire series and genres from consideration. It’s an obvious example, but I doubt The Hallmark Channel will be showing Breaking Bad anytime soon! The Breaking Bad audience also isn’t likely to purchase the denture cream advertised on Hallmark either. Different networks program for different audiences. As independent businesses, it’s their call ultimately. It’s how they make a profit.

Hey, you can always start your own network and show every H5-O episode on a continuous loop! Of course, you probably couldn’t get a decent copy of “Bored, She Hung Herself” to air. CBS made that programming decision long ago.

Breaking Bad on the Hallmark Channel is a bad example. I'm sure they won't be showing Five-O or any other crime drama anytime soon. So that's neither here nor there. We're talking about a network (Heroes & Icons) that's all about action heroes and crime dramas and good guys vs. bad guys. So airing Five-O and showing a fairly disturbing rape episode one week (like "Skinhead" which they did show) and then choosing not to show an episode where Danno shoots a teen makes no sense. It's just unnecessary. It's a cop show and cops shoot people. Like it or not. If you don't like cops shooting someone then you might as well not show Five-O at all. Or any other cop show. Just my 2 cents. It's a pet peeve of mine because it's basically someone treating the audience like children and deciding for them whether they should be allowed to see something or not. How about letting the audience decide for themselves? We're not talking about something graphic here, something that doesn't adhere to network TV standards. In this case it's just a knee-jerk reaction... "ooooh, we better not show this because someone might get offended". Well, someone might be more offended by the rape episode yet they decided to show that one. So who are they to decide what's offensive or not and to whom?

[Mr. Mike]

Sad news, Walter Omori has passed away. He appeared as an extra in many Classic Hawaii Five-O episodes, ranging from season one's "The Box" to the finale, "Woe to Wo Fat." (See http://www.fiveohomepage.com/walteromori.) According to his obituary which appeared in the Star-Advertiser (https://obits.staradvertiser.com/.../walter-masashi.../), he also appeared in more than the one episode of the original Magnum, P.I. which was brought to my attention here.