Hawaii Five-O: Any Fans?

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#1441 Post by ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) »

T.Q. wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 11:25 pm Though the Heavens Fall

Good concept à la “Star Chamber”.

I enjoyed the first half but didn’t love where it went with the safari hunt for some reason.

Was good though.

You know I like the vigilante stuff.

Still didn’t like Sharon Farrell‘s acting much. :lol:

And Mr. Brady was good again. Out goes the idea of ‘did the producers and casting director think all Asians look alike’ when the same actors are cast in different roles continually. Robert Reed was like 8 episodes apart in different roles too. :P :P :P

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Yep, I enjoy vigilante episodes too. So this was right up my alley. It's nowhere near as good as season 6's "Mother's Deadly Helper" with Anthony Zerbe playing the McGarrett-worshipping vigilante (that kind of episode quality is long gone by this point) but for a season 12 episode I thought this was quite good. In fact it's my favorite from the final season! Granted it's slim pickings by this point, but still...

Robert Reed is always good in these high-brow, clean-cut, intelligent type roles. Here he's the leader of this "star chamber" type group, where they chant their motto "Let justice be done... though the heavens fall". Hey, I like it. He's impeccably dressed in white suits, walks with a cane, good at fencing, hunting, etc. A man for all seasons! Speaking of hunting, I like the safari hunt just fine. At least it's something we haven't seen on the show before. Also them kidnapping Howell via the back of the cliff (sure, it's a bit silly) but I still like it. They steal Howell right from under Kimo and Lori's noses. So much for the new Five-O team. :lol: The old team was better.

There's a good score by Bruce Broughton (whose music we haven't heard since the start of season 10). He would only do this and one more ("Use a Gun, Go to Hell") but it's basically the same score, reused from this episode.

I also get a good chuckle when McG swoops in at the end in the copter to save the day. He flies overhead, knocks out the bad guys with the force of the wind from the copter (I guess), then gives the shaka sign to poor Truck below who's wounded, and then just flies away. :lol: :lol: Sheesh! :shock: He didn't have room for just one person to be air-lifted to the nearest hospital? I bet he wouldn't have bailed like that if that was Danno below.

There's also an unnecessary preaching session at the end by McG to Reed about the judicial system and calling one's lawyer. Yes, we get it. Reed is a hypocrite, relying on the judicial system when it suits him. No need to preach. Something like this would have never happened in the earlier seasons. But hey, this is season 12 and McG is high up on his pulpit. :)

I believe this is the episode that Lord actually directed himself, even though the directing credit went to Harry F. Hogan III. I think the same thing may have also happened with "A Very Personal Matter" which is the other one that Hogan gets a directing credit for. I think I read somewhere that it was Hogan at whom Lord blew up and said "Nobody shoots me through a fountain!" and I think it was during "A Very Personal Matter". At which point I think Lord just took over directing duties and let Hogan take the credit. I could be misremembering if that was Hogan or some other director. But I think it was.

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Robert Reed is actually convincing as the head of a vigilance committee and gives an excellent performance despite the presence of that hideous permed hair of his!

The bright spot in this one is the presence of the gorgeous Elyssa Davalos, daughter of actor Richard Davalos, (who co-starred with James Dean in East of Eden and who later appeared along with Sharon Farrell in season nine’s "A Capitol Crime", which I once considered one of the series’ all-time worst episodes...my view has since softened on that).

Davalos is sorely underused and serves more as a way of getting Kimo Carew working at the club undercover as its archery expert. Danny Williams was the team’s explosives guy and resident sharpshooter; Kimo is the archery expert. William Smith, being the bad a$$ he’s always been, handles those chores well…in the one brief scene where he demonstrates his bow-and-arrow prowess.

This is the show where the Five-O newbies bungle the case at two different times. The first being when the Michael Strong character is taken unconscious from his home while the oblivious Kimo and Lori sit in their car having lunch! The camera cuts back to them several times in between the vigilantes stealing away Strong and numerous shots of the incompetent Five-O team engaging in awkward banter in between bites of glutinous Wonder Bread sandwiches! What happened to the sympathetic "bond" of the previous episode? It’s a “scream at the TV moment” for sure.

I agree that Bruce Broughton's score is superb. The cue for the kidnapping of Michael Strong's wife killer character is up there with the best of Morton Stevens and Richard Shores' efforts for the series.

The second infuriating scene is when Kimo and Truck contact McGarrett from the club itself. Of course, the phone is tapped and the vigilantes quickly learn that their two new employees are cops. Groan! McGarrett does little but arrive at the club, chastise Truck for getting peeved at a bossy member and arrive at the climactic battle via helicopter. The hilarious part of this and the single memorable moment in the episode is after the vigilantes are dispatched, McGarrett waves at the wounded Truck and Kimo on the ground and says “See you back home, fellows!” LOL! Is this guy on the low road to retirement or what?

Some other redeeming qualities of “Though the Heavens Fall” is the location shooting of the country club. I’m not sure I’ve seen it used before, but the scenery is breathtaking. However, the episode itself ranks somewhere in the middle of the bunch of S12.
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Sign of the Ram

I sighed at the "Mars is in my 8th house".

NOOO! AGAIN? No more astrology stories! :x :P

Very weak episode. Didn't enjoy this one.

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#1444 Post by Little Garwood »

Sign of the Ram

This episode has two things I don’t like: psychic/supernatural “phenomena” and boxing. Boxing stories are almost always deathly dull (there are a few great exceptions), with inordinate amounts of time wasted showing two non-fighters not putting their hands up. I also prefer supernatural/religious belief stories to come in at the end as a surprise finale to something, if that angle is used at all.

The guest stars are also not worthy of a Five-O episode. Entirely too much screen time is murdered via screen time devoted to Jayne Meadows as astrologer Jessica Humboldt, whose cultured New York tones drove me to distraction. From everything I’ve been able to tell about her in so-called “real” life, she was a genuinely sweet lady, but here she’s just overbearing. Joe Moore, as boxer Pete Shore, gave a putrid performance. If Moore wanted to give the impression of being a bad actor who was also punch drunk in real life, then he succeeded admirably.

The crooked boxing manager Eddie Marco (Anthony Ponzini) is played with a comedic touch as if he’s trying to salvage this mess of an episode. He’s absolutely devoid of any sense of menace. If Meadows’ presence dictated the entire atmosphere of this one, then we can blame her for all that is bad here. McGarrett does little except express disbelief in astrology and end up in the thick of the action at episode’s end.

Despite my dislike of boxing stories, I still think I would like this one more if I watched it in an extremely good frame of mind, like if I just won the state lottery.
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Liked it. Thought it was good.

Kimo and Truck have grown on me more.

This was fun:

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McGarrett had some good moments wen they questioned his (and Five-0's) integrity.

Liked the bug in McGarrett's pencil holder.

MPI: Josie Over (where has she been?), Jerry Boyd
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Little Garwood wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 1:44 am I agree that Bruce Broughton's score is superb. The cue for the kidnapping of Michael Strong's wife killer character is up there with the best of Morton Stevens and Richard Shores' efforts for the series.
While I disagree that's it up there with the best of Mort's and Richard's efforts, I agree that the cue for the cliffside kidnapping is excellent and really sticks in your head even after you've finished watching the episode. I think it's reprised again during the safari hunt. I find myself humming it often. And no, not when I'm scaling the side of a cliff. :)

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T.Q. wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 2:45 pm Sign of the Ram

I sighed at the "Mars is in my 8th house".

NOOO! AGAIN? No more astrology stories! :x :P

Very weak episode. Didn't enjoy this one.

MPI: Joe Moore, Jake Hoopai, Barbara Kelly, Galen Kam
Crap episode! I didn't like season 11's "Horoscope for Murder" with Samantha Eggar and Tab Hunter, but this one is infinitely worse!!! Boxing + horoscope = dull, dull, dull. One of the low points of the final season and the series as a whole. Nothing to recommend here.

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T.Q. wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:43 pm Good Help Is Hard to Find

Liked it. Thought it was good.

Kimo and Truck have grown on me more.

This was fun:

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McGarrett had some good moments wen they questioned his (and Five-0's) integrity.

Liked the bug in McGarrett's pencil holder.

MPI: Josie Over (where has she been?), Jerry Boyd
I used to always get annoyed when this one came on. I just never cared for it. I think I like it a little more these days but still not a fan. Having Alika helps (is this the one where he welcomes Duke and Steve to his "leetle grass shack for some fresh opakapaka"?) and this is his final appearance. John P. Ryan is always such a great baddie but he's pretty much wasted here. His Guido Marioni character could have really been someone truly evil for Kimo to seek vengeance against. But he's a no-show for the majority of the episode (Alika is hiding him away) and when he finally shows up at the end for the great climax between him and Kimo it's almost an afterthought. So much potential wasted. The episode is too preoccupied with supposed corruption in the Five-O office (that's the main story here), so this tale of revenge that they spring on us at the end literally comes out of nowhere. It's Kimo watching a drug deal going down through his binoculars and then all of a sudden he spots his mortal enemy! 5 minutes later the episode is over. The end. :roll: This revenge story really should have been a separate episode.

There's a good Morton Stevens cue when the "cleaning lady" is planting the bug in McG's office.

Directed by stuntman/coordinator Beau Van Den Ecker! Of course he directed the stellar "Skyline Killer" earlier - his only great one.

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ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:16 am
Crap episode! I didn't like season 11's "Horoscope for Murder" with Samantha Eggar and Tab Hunter, but this one is infinitely worse!!! Boxing + horoscope = dull, dull, dull. One of the low points of the final season and the series as a whole. Nothing to recommend here.
Ivan and TQ agree again.

Let's hope the stars don't punish us and Mars burns down our 8th house in the middle of the street.
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T.Q. wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 1:22 pm
ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:16 am
Crap episode! I didn't like season 11's "Horoscope for Murder" with Samantha Eggar and Tab Hunter, but this one is infinitely worse!!! Boxing + horoscope = dull, dull, dull. One of the low points of the final season and the series as a whole. Nothing to recommend here.
Ivan and TQ agree again.

Let's hope the stars don't punish us and Mars burns down our 8th house in the middle of the street.
Yeah and let's hope Aquarius doesn't pluto its way into the 8th part of the village on which Jupiter resides in the middle of a Bedouin tent under the scorching sun of Pisces under the Mothership of Uranus and Venus. :shock: We surely don't want that.

But hey at least the season 12 writers had fun taking all those drugs! :lol:

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ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 8:18 pm
T.Q. wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 1:22 pm
ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Tue May 31, 2022 4:16 am
Crap episode! I didn't like season 11's "Horoscope for Murder" with Samantha Eggar and Tab Hunter, but this one is infinitely worse!!! Boxing + horoscope = dull, dull, dull. One of the low points of the final season and the series as a whole. Nothing to recommend here.
Ivan and TQ agree again.

Let's hope the stars don't punish us and Mars burns down our 8th house in the middle of the street.
Yeah and let's hope Aquarius doesn't pluto its way into the 8th part of the village on which Jupiter resides in the middle of a Bedouin tent under the scorching sun of Pisces under the Mothership of Uranus and Venus. :shock: We surely don't want that.

But hey at least the season 12 writers had fun taking all those drugs! :lol:
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Gaslighting galour.

I liked the episode.

I figured out early it was the ex-husband manipulating the wife for custody of the kid because I'm a genius.

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DOH!!!.. Good twist being the daughter.

I liked the Sealife Park popcorn deduction.

McGarrett's lecture about kids from broken homes was pretty good. Society didn't make excuses for everyone's behaviour back then.

MPI: Soon-Tek Oh (always enjoy him), Patricia Herman, Wayne Ward,
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T.Q. wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:45 pm Image of Fear

Gaslighting galour.

I liked the episode.

I figured out early it was the ex-husband manipulating the wife for custody of the kid because I'm a genius.

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DOH!!!.. Good twist being the daughter.

I liked the Sealife Park popcorn deduction.

McGarrett's lecture about kids from broken homes was pretty good. Society didn't make excuses for everyone's behaviour back then.

MPI: Soon-Tek Oh (always enjoy him), Patricia Herman, Wayne Ward,
T.Q. you're my best buddy when it comes to seasons 11 and 12. I don't even remember what a bamboo cage looks like anymore - haven't had a need to build one. :lol: I really like this episode too! :) It's probably my 2nd favorite of the season, after the vigilante group episode. The gaslighting aspect of it is what really works for me and provides the suspense factor. Linda Marsh is very good at being terrified and confused here. I too remember thinking who it could be (I knew Soon Teck-Oh was working for someone) but I never guessed it was the daughter. It was a very good twist! Was it a bit far-fetched that she orchestrated all this? Sure. Especially finding an ex-con who was willing to do her bidding. I mean she's just a kid! But then looking back even to the earlier (and much better) seasons I recall lots of far-fetched plots which I loved. So sometimes you just gotta roll with it. The suspense was there and the twist worked for me. The ex-husband was the obvious red herring so I kinda ruled him out. But then I realized there was nobody else left. So I thought maybe it was him after all. Nope, it was the bratty kid. Neat twist!

The Sea Life Park was indeed a good location. Always love seeing that spot. The lecture by McG at the end wasn't too bad. The kid definitely deserved it.

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ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:01 pm
T.Q. you're my best buddy when it comes to seasons 11 and 12. I don't even remember what a bamboo cage looks like anymore - haven't had a need to build one. :lol:
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T.Q. wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:04 pm
ZelenskyTheValiant (Ivan) wrote: Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:01 pm
T.Q. you're my best buddy when it comes to seasons 11 and 12. I don't even remember what a bamboo cage looks like anymore - haven't had a need to build one. :lol:
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KUMBAYA!!!! :D

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