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308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:37 am
by KENJI
Here is a great restoration on a 1980 308 with an interesting first owner.
http://www.maranellohouse.com/308restoration.html

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:32 pm
by 308GUY
That's really cool! Thanks for posting.

Here's another one, hope the link works...

http://308gtb.tumblr.com/


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Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:18 pm
by KENJI
My pleasure 308GUY.
I enjoyed your link as well!
Talk about a labor of love and the patience of a saint!!
The wiring alone would scare the heck out of me...even my head hurts looking at it.

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:01 pm
by KENJI

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:06 pm
by KENJI

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:09 pm
by KENJI
Lots of before and after pics for this prize winning car.
http://www.foskers.com/ferrari-restorat ... 308-gtb-qv

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:14 pm
by KENJI
Here are a few 308s looking for facelift....Anyone looking for a project?
http://readytofix.com/CL/308.htm

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:41 pm
by Styles Bitchley
KENJI wrote:Here are a few 308s looking for facelift....Anyone looking for a project?
http://readytofix.com/CL/308.htm
Prices aren't bad, but you're going to need some deep pockets unless you're mechanically inclined or have your own personal T.C.

Make an offer!!! Ouch!

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Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:27 pm
by KENJI
There was one that I didn't post that looked like Ivan had got a hold of it and it went to auction. I wouldn't have even made a bid...it was that bad.

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:40 pm
by 308GUY
Some of those on the "rebuildable's" site could be brought back, well all of them if you had unlimited resources and all the time in the world, but if you had that, you'd just buy one that was already done! :magnum:

The one Styles posted a pic of is obviously a 328 and believe it or not, actually has many useable parts, and as above, could be put back in operation, but why bother unless somebody paid you to take it off their hands! It would be good for somebody like myself who is SLOWLY working on a 308 replica, fiberglass body on a Fiero chassis, to take measurements and just to see how things are done on the "real deal". But again, if one had the money to buy one just to "look" at, why go to all the bother/expense to build a replica or restore a wreck?

Nice to dream.......huh? :magnum:

Thanks for all the links KENJI!

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:30 pm
by KENJI
308GUY wrote:Some of those on the "rebuildable's" site could be brought back, well all of them if you had unlimited resources and all the time in the world, but if you had that, you'd just buy one that was already done! :magnum:

The one Styles posted a pic of is obviously a 328 and believe it or not, actually has many useable parts, and as above, could be put back in operation, but why bother unless somebody paid you to take it off their hands! It would be good for somebody like myself who is SLOWLY working on a 308 replica, fiberglass body on a Fiero chassis, to take measurements and just to see how things are done on the "real deal". But again, if one had the money to buy one just to "look" at, why go to all the bother/expense to build a replica or restore a wreck?

Nice to dream.......huh? :magnum:
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Thanks for all the links KENJI!
No problem 308GUY.....I would love to see pics of your 308 replica!
I would think most of these wrecks are purchased strictly for parts as they are expensive! I remember watching a show on a family business that strictly deals in used Ferrari parts and they buy wrecks like this one and piece it out. There are a few mechanics out there who just love a challenge and would take on a project like this one and don't really care about making a profit.....it's just a labor of love. I've seen cars like a 57 Chev that have been stripped down and painstakingly put back together and then sold at auction for a loss (not always the case). The hours invested not to mention the money put out cannot be recouped, but the guys loved every minute of the build. Others do it for profit and manage the build more like a business which isn't the same. For the weekend mechanic it becomes their baby and an extension of them. I had a chance to buy a local 308 wreck and when I factored in all the repairs it made no sense at all to buy......much better to buy one in excellent shape with low miles and an up to date maintenance log......easier to resell too. Some people will buy a wreck to fix it up to race at the track and that makes more sense. I agree....it is nice to dream!!

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:43 pm
by Styles Bitchley
I'm thinking one of those flood damaged 308s would make some nice wall art, like this Countach.

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Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:53 pm
by KENJI
Styles Bitchley wrote:I'm thinking one of those flood damaged 308s would make some nice wall art, like this Countach.

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I've seen this before....pretty cool and a great conversation piece!!
You would save a lot on maintenance, insurance and gas if it was hanging on the wall!

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:33 am
by 308GUY
KENJI, you are right, there are people that do projects like that just for the challenge.

Another reason sometimes is that the car is so rare, there just aren't that many around, so you get what you can find, and do what you have to to bring it to the condition you want it to be.

The 308's were fairly "plentiful", i.e., there are still a number of good examples around if you have the funds to buy, then keep up, the "real deal".

Aside from the nostalgia associated with the MPI infatuation, I just think the lines of the car are so classic and beautiful, that I'd more than likely be doing the same thing even without the MPI link.

As some of you know, Pontiac made available only through their dealerships, an american car based on the Fiero chassis called the Mera. They only produced around 1,500 units when Ferrari took them to court and shut their production down. Destroyed the molds and said, no more of that.

More than a couple private concerns took it upon themselves to produce molds from the Mera bodies, and some even took molds from actual 308's. Eventually, Ferrari sued them all that were doing it for commercial purposes, (can't really blame them), but many of the bodies produced and a few sets of molds survived, even if clandestinely. There are still bodies being produced, but no advertising, and the home built replica is not a super rare occurance.

It's been long enough since the 308's were in production, that I don't think the folks at Ferrari are that interested any longer, and a guy putting one together in his garage, for his own personal satisfaction/entertainment, is probably not of any concern either. As long as noone is trying to mass produce them, and/or make a major commercial enterprise out of it, it's a hobby more than a few enjoy.

I'm still at the collecting parts stage for the most part. I have the fiberglass parts, but not all in one place yet. I have the front and rear clips fitted, but not permanantly mounted, and am building the engine that I'm going to use (3800) I'm putting it on an 88 ttop chassis that I've got stripped of all the stock body panels. Have been working on the door latch mechansims, as I want to duplicate what the actual cars used, rather than the Fiero units, that requires making some of the parts. I also plan to rework the hood and decklid to more closely resemble the actual car, and already have an MR2 back glass that I'll have to do some fabricating/welding to fit onto the chassis, but it has the curved ends, like the 308, and unlike the flat glass on the stock Fiero. Then there's the windshield.... :magnum: Got a plan for that too!

Point is, not much to take pictures of at this point. I did buy a set of actual 308 wheels and tires, have them stashed in my storage trailer, along with many other parts. Haven't been able to do much with this weather we've been having, but I hope to make better progress this spring/summer. These type projects can take years, that's why I said SLOWLY working on! :D

Besides, I haven't yet figured out how to post pics here. I don't have any accounts anywhere that hosts pictures, so not sure how to go about it otherwise.

Bottom line is, it'll be a while before there's much to take pictures of! :magnum:

Re: 308 Ferrari Restoration

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:52 am
by KENJI
Hi 308GUY,
My first visual of a 308 was in a cigarette ad in TV Digest and I've loved them from that day forward.....great lines etc. etc.
Your project sounds challenging, but very rewarding when it is finally complete. Take your time and enjoy the process.
Look forward to hearing updates down the road.
Good luck!
Kenji