Medical advancements are a contributor, maybe even a large one, but they are far from the only reason our life expectancy is as high as it is.Pahonu wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 11:30 pm I’m sorry to hear you feel that way. The only point I would make is that medical advances are the very reason we live to the extended ages we do today. As a history teacher I will simply say that the life expectancy just 100 years ago in 1920 in the US was under 55 years. Now it is over 75 years. That’s because of medical advancements. The fact that 90% of current cancers are diagnosed in people over 45 explains very well why cancer rates are higher today than in the past. It’s nothing nefarious. We live much longer lives and cancer mutations rise with age. To take my point to its extreme, I can imagine very few people got cancer in the medieval period when life expectancy in Europe was less than 40. A small number of people then lived to the ages we typically do today and might have gotten cancer, but how unusual would that have been?
At its most basic, are you saying that if you suffered a heart attack tonight, you wouldn’t call 911 and seek medical treatment? You would avoid it like the screwy people you mention. I hope you would want the ER doctors to use all the knowledge, treatments, and drugs they have to save your life. I suppose some might not, but I’m not in that group and I think most are not no matter how they feel politically about vaccination. It appears to be a bit of pick and choose the medical advancements they believe, though I see no logical rationale to base those seemingly arbitrary decisions on.
100 years ago, hospitals in France were not air-conditioned.
Not all that long ago, doctors did not believe in washing hands before surgery.
We did not understand the importance of clean water.
We did not understand nutrition.
The list goes on, and some of the items on the list are at least as important as the medical advancements of the last century.
To me, the issue is that since March 2020, apolitical organizations became fully politicized, damn the consequences, and yes, their actions were nefarious, no question about that. Doctors and scientists became beholden to a narrative that has now been proven false beyond a shadow of a doubt, and it was obviously false by May 2020 to anyone who was paying attention and willing to do even a modest amount of research. As a result of the last half-decade or so, I will never again trust the FBI, CDC, and many other organizations. Their reputation has been tarnished beyond repair, and I no longer care what they say or do. I know I'm not alone.
Would I call 911 for a myocardial infarction? Sure. Would I want a drug created after 2020? No way, never. Will my opinion of these industries change? Only if the industries themselves change, but I'm not seeing that happen. I'm seeing more organizations go in the same bad direction.
It is extremely obvious that something has changed in the last 3 years, with respect to the medical situation in America. Children are dying in much greater numbers than we have ever seen, and not just due to suicides. The sheer number of "unexplained" deaths is off the charts. What changed? I think we all know the answer.