For myself, I am not anti-vax. I simply do not want to be a guinea pig for an untested, new type of vaccine that was never successful in animal testing. My children are vaccinated for most (all?) of the things. We hoped they would catch chicken pox, like my wife and I did as children, but nobody we knew had it while our children were in the right age range, so we weren't able to send them to a "chicken pox party," and so they had the jab for that.Little Garwood wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:56 pm If Covid-19 only affected children, would those against vaccination refuse it for their children?
This -- COVID -- is different. COVID is at this point completely politicized, and it saddens me that so many people don't see that. This is not about health -- just look at Australia -- NONE of what the Australian government is doing is about health. "Health" is not a one-dimensional concept -- there are many things to consider. If we were one-dimensional beings, with one-dimensional health considerations, then Australia's actions might be warranted, but we are not, and those actions are not. Mental health is important too. Children's education is important too. We have to consider the whole person and the whole of society when we look at policy. We have to consider the results of that policy. And, we have seen the severely negative results of nearly two years of government overreach -- increased murder rates, increased suicide rates, increased depression rates, increased obesity, lowered treatment for cancer and other issues, decreased learning for schoolchildren, the list goes on -- and it's time to correct. It's not time to demand that all children get a jab that is known to be more dangerous to them than COVID is! (See California.)
I supported "15 days to slow the spread," and somewhere between 15 days and 45 days I came to realize that it wasn't about health... that it was about petty tyrants who want to control people's lives. In the very beginning, when we didn't know better, "15 days to slow the spread" was reasonable. But we now have nearly two years of information to go on: We know IFRs are practically 0% for anyone 55 and under (and it's only 15% for those 85 and over, and the vast majority of those who die had comorbidities). In short, we now know who is vulnerable, we know a lot of things. But we still act as if we know nothing, and we still act as if this is the plague -- that is, if it touches you, YOU WILL DIE. With these low (and in some cases practically nonexistent) IFRs, we know that this is absolutely not true. Ever since that point 15-45 days in, I have advocated a sensible approach: protect the vulnerable among us, and let the rest of us get back to normal lives. The sooner we do that, the better off we will all be.